Ex-McLaren F1 and Lotus designers crowdfund lightweight spor

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Post by hendeg » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:37 am

Investors and car enthusiasts have the chance to own a part of a new British car company called Elemental, founded and run by a team of senior designers and engineers formerly at McLaren F1, Porsche, Lotus and BMW.

Elemental is seeking to raise £600,000 for a 26% share of the company through a crowdfunding round on SyndicateRoom.

They are creating a new range of lightweight sports cars designed for the track and road-driving enthusiast. The cars incorporate 21st century motorsport design principles, aerodynamics and materials. The first car in production - the Elemental RP-1 - will completely update the traditional idea of an occasional-use road and track car.

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Post by BigD » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:33 am

Duncan Bananatyne mode:

So you want £600,000 for 24%, that values the company at £2.3m.

Do you own the copyright for the new carbon design?
Do you have any orders?
Do you have any assets?
So you value what exactly at £2.3m?
Do you think that £2.3m is a realistic valuation for a start up company? Yes?!, well I think you're aff yer heid so I'm out............... good luck with it, (sleazy sarcastic smle)

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Post by graeme » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:45 pm

You're not asking the big question, D.

Does it have a LSD?
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Post by BigD » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:47 pm

graeme wrote:You're not asking the big question, D.

Does it have a LSD?
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Post by Dominic » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:26 pm

BigD wrote:Duncan Bananatyne mode:

So you want £600,000 for 24%, that values the company at £2.3m.

Do you own the copyright for the new carbon design?
Do you have any orders?
Do you have any assets?
So you value what exactly at £2.3m?
Do you think that £2.3m is a realistic valuation for a start up company? Yes?!, well I think you're aff yer heid so I'm out............... good luck with it, (sleazy sarcastic smle)
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We seem to be in another era of a lot of small sports car manufacturers having a go at making cars / making a business. Good to see, would be even nicer to see many of them make a go of it.
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Post by Andy G » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:14 pm

Think the car is featured in Evo this week.

Looked good but properly pricy (£60-80), and looks more than a bit like the Zenos E10.

Still hats off to them for having a crack!
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Post by gambler » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:01 am

I wonder what people said when some turnip farmers strapped a Honda engine to and old ladder and some scaffolding. A bit of face bending from Clarkson and they were set.
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Post by Eric K » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:37 pm

I was reading about this in Autocar ...

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Post by robin » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:38 am

There are two issues here that shouldn't be confused with one another - firstly the car itself, secondly the sanity of investing cash in a company like this. I have no comment on the car, but as an investment it's probably akin to picking 10 horses at random on an accumulator bet. What would your exit strategy be? What are the chances of the company making profits? None, and none ...
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Post by Eric K » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:37 am

Can't disagree.

I love some of the details of the concept (quality carbon tub, aero underneath, engine configuration etc.) but I won't be re-mortgaging my house to invest.
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Post by C7Steve » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:42 pm

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Post by Eric K » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:55 pm

I did a trackday at Silverstone a few weeks back and these guys were testing a couple of their cars.

They looked like nice bits of kit and seemed to be going well (but having cooling problems apparently).

I think have some photos so I'll dig them out when I get time.
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Post by Ferg » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:17 pm

Hats off to them. But £100k.......... :damnfunny :damnfunny :damnfunny

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Post by tut » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:58 am

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Post by TarmacTerrorist » Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:33 pm

I like it, looks good, has the right proportions about it, price is big but so is the spec.. they need to look at doing a more basic model imo, 240-250hp with a regular H pattern gearbox ,get it under 70k all in. A race spec sequential would soon piss you off on the road, no matter how infrequent you used it or how 'hard-core' you think you are!! Is it just me or in the first vid above does it look like he's having to dial in lots of turn on the steering to get it to go where he wants?
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