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Re: Alternator ?

Post by Corranga » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:57 am

Checked my purchase history, Here..

.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/261939453128
'16 MINI Cooper S - Family fun hatch
'98 Lotus Elise - Fun day car
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Re: Alternator ?

Post by Stephen » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:34 am

That's the 65 amp one go for the 85 amp.
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Re: Alternator ?

Post by robin » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:55 am

At 70 quid "New" you can see how that might not be a quality part ...
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Re: Alternator ?

Post by KevD » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:30 pm

I'm going for 2nd hand and attempting to fit myself, I think the belt is snapped so it won't be charging at all. Replacing the jeep alternator has give me the confidence to attempt the elise ( although the jeep had a wiring problem in the end and alternator was fine)

http://www.elise-shop.com/alternator-be ... p-445.html correct belt? Probably cheaper places but i need a few other bits and bobs ( wiper etc) and want to support the specialists

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Re: Alternator ?

Post by Stephen » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:28 pm

This is the belt you want.
Multirib 5PK736 Alternator Fan Drive Belt Rover Porsche MG Land Rover Citroen XM

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Re: Alternator ?

Post by Scottd » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:06 am

This is the OEM alternator I got a year or two ago. Not the cheapest at £170 ish but they do the S2 vesrion as well which looks identical but is £50 less. There is possibly a good reason for the 30% price difference?
http://www.amp-starters.co.uk/product.a ... rtRecord=1
or www.amp-starters.co.uk and search Elise,
Like Stephen explained, mine had a cracked casing. Also the belts can have almost the same part number but different shaped teeth - if that makes sense. I imagine the one Stephen is pointing out is correct. Unlike the one I got from my local parts shop.
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Re: Alternator ?

Post by KevD » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:46 am

Just to update this...

I fitted a second hand alternator which I couldn't get to run correctly, kept giving me voltage issues at high revs.

I then scoured ebay and found a bench tested mgf 85amp which seems to be working well. It cost £40 but looks refurbished. Marelli.

It's not that difficult a job, just awkward. Thanks for the advice on here which gave me the confidence to attempt it!


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Re: Alternator ?

Post by Stephen » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:28 am

Keep the old one and stick a new rectifier pack in it.
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Re: Alternator ?

Post by Stu160 » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:15 am

From my vast experience with S1 alternators, i would spend the cash, an buy a genuine s1 part, or have it converted to g he better S2 one. It is worth it, my 160 chewed up and spat out over a dozen refurbed sh*t ones in 2 years, waste of money, an time.

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Re: Alternator ?

Post by KevD » Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:26 am

The original marelli one lasted 14 years and 60k+ miles. What killed it and the the one I just removed was the car sitting too long and it seizing. It lives outdoors and occasional use isnt good for it. My own fault rather heat shield issue which I think kills a lot of them.

Having a week old baby changes financial priorities so £40 vs £200 for a new one was an easy decision.if I'm back buying a new one in under a year it'll have been a bad decision!

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Re: Alternator ?

Post by mwmackenzie » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:57 am

KevD wrote:The original marelli one lasted 14 years and 60k+ miles. What killed it and the the one I just removed was the car sitting too long and it seizing. It lives outdoors and occasional use isnt good for it. My own fault rather heat shield issue which I think kills a lot of them.

Having a week old baby changes financial priorities so £40 vs £200 for a new one was an easy decision.if I'm back buying a new one in under a year it'll have been a bad decision!
Congrats Kev on the new arrival! :cheers
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Re: Alternator ?

Post by Corranga » Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:25 pm

Just revisited this thread and saw this...
robin wrote:At 70 quid "New" you can see how that might not be a quality part ...
Robin, this IS a quality part - see my previous post (which I've re-quoted below for ease) the only issue being it's a 65A not an 85A. It is NOT a cheap Chinese alternator.
Corranga wrote:there is an eBay seller that does them pretty cheap. New (well reconditioned but they all are..) Denso recon'd unit (mine was in a denso box but is a magnetti marelli alternator) for about 70 quid
I'd have though 65A should be plenty for the Elise..

I guess I'll feedback in a few months once I've used the car a bit.
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Re: Alternator ?

Post by robin » Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:35 pm

So is it "NEW" as per the ad, or is it recon'd? Either way, just 'cos it says Magnetti Marelli on it doesn't mean it is.

Here's the question - if this really were a "NEW" alternator as advertised for 70 quid that would imply that the margin from the UK distributor to retail is of the order of 70%. Or this part isn't from the same factory that makes the £200 parts.

I've no problem with people buying and fitting these alternators, but I have my doubts that they are "NEW" and even that they are genuine factory parts reconditioned (vs clone parts).

You pays your money, you takes your choice :-)


Does this look like a manufacturer's warranty on a new part:

"Warranty 14 days
Buyer pays return postage
The buyer is responsible for return postage costs.
Return policy details
All items are sold with a minimum 28 day return to base warranty unless otherwise specified in our listings. This is for manufacturing faults only and does not include damage caused by the user, misuse or wear and tear. This does not exclude your statutory rights. You are always responsible for the safe return of unwanted or faulty goods. Postage will only be refunded when we are at fault or if the goods are proven to have a manufacturing fault in which case we will need your postage receipt in order to issue this. Upon contact with us, returns should be sent to: Best of Rover Spares LTD 265 Darlaston Road, Darlaston, West Midlands, WS10 7TG"



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Re: Alternator ?

Post by campbell » Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:00 am

UJI is on its 2nd alternator. I think the first one shook itself to death after a bolt sheared. Current one was £45 cash at Club Lotus Festival Donnie, circa 2006. Think it said Marelli on it and I think Robin "helped" me fit it (ie, I passed him a few spanners!)

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Re: Alternator ?

Post by KevD » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:56 am

Thanks, enjoying it so far but lucky enough to be getting some sleep and I don't restart work till Monday which is going to be weird!
mwmackenzie wrote:
KevD wrote:The original marelli one lasted 14 years and 60k+ miles. What killed it and the the one I just removed was the car sitting too long and it seizing. It lives outdoors and occasional use isnt good for it. My own fault rather heat shield issue which I think kills a lot of them.

Having a week old baby changes financial priorities so £40 vs £200 for a new one was an easy decision.if I'm back buying a new one in under a year it'll have been a bad decision!
Congrats Kev on the new arrival! :cheers

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