Scratches
Scratches
I don't post in "Car Care" often. Odd, that, given it's all I'm even remotely qualified to do to my car!
Anyway, we had some serious scratches down the pax side of the family barge from our exploits on the narrow lanes of Cornwall this summer.
Really thought a machine burnish was going to be required.
But first I dug out my Meguiars fancy scratch removal stuff. Last used to try to mediate the mess some dope made when they reversed their Fiat van over the top of my front clam. Worked not bad on the Elise's silver paintwork. Ish. Not today though, just made a streaky mess on the Skoda's Race Blue paintwork.
So then I dug out the Mer. Yes, good old Mer. Shlapped some on with an applicator, more to take away the Meguiar streaks than to treat the scratches really, and - whaddayaknow - they are GONE. Literally. There is one deeper one on the front wing which can still be picked out...if you look hard...but otherwise it's a transformation. I tackled some others elsewhere on the car (in fact I did the whole thing - I'm exhausted, Mer is hard work) and I'm glad I did. Finished just before the rain started too!
And there you have it. My 2p for tonight.
Sorry, no before and after pics though
Campbell
(shiny faction)
Anyway, we had some serious scratches down the pax side of the family barge from our exploits on the narrow lanes of Cornwall this summer.
Really thought a machine burnish was going to be required.
But first I dug out my Meguiars fancy scratch removal stuff. Last used to try to mediate the mess some dope made when they reversed their Fiat van over the top of my front clam. Worked not bad on the Elise's silver paintwork. Ish. Not today though, just made a streaky mess on the Skoda's Race Blue paintwork.
So then I dug out the Mer. Yes, good old Mer. Shlapped some on with an applicator, more to take away the Meguiar streaks than to treat the scratches really, and - whaddayaknow - they are GONE. Literally. There is one deeper one on the front wing which can still be picked out...if you look hard...but otherwise it's a transformation. I tackled some others elsewhere on the car (in fact I did the whole thing - I'm exhausted, Mer is hard work) and I'm glad I did. Finished just before the rain started too!
And there you have it. My 2p for tonight.
Sorry, no before and after pics though
Campbell
(shiny faction)
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Re: Scratches
Campbell, I think that the scratches will still be there, as it sounds like you have only filled them up with Mer (don't know what this is exactly). The only way to get rid of the scratches, would be to polish them out with a machine, if there not too deep, or a respray. If you go for the machine polisher, or respray route, then you won't have to worry about doing the whole car with "Mer" again, once it all washes off.
I am sure that Tuscan Thunder will be along soon, to put me right, and give us an experts opinion.
Steve.
I am sure that Tuscan Thunder will be along soon, to put me right, and give us an experts opinion.
Steve.
Re: Scratches
Thanks for the reassurance
C'est la vie eh.
C'est la vie eh.
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Re: Scratches
I'm of the opinion that if you can't see them, they're no longer there..............
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Re: Scratches
Mer is a mixed of non-diminishing abrasives (a la T-Cut but to a lesser extent) and filling and glazing oils. It will cut into and remove paint and hence 'remove' scratches.campbell wrote:I don't post in "Car Care" often. Odd, that, given it's all I'm even remotely qualified to do to my car!
Anyway, we had some serious scratches down the pax side of the family barge from our exploits on the narrow lanes of Cornwall this summer.
Really thought a machine burnish was going to be required.
But first I dug out my Meguiars fancy scratch removal stuff. Last used to try to mediate the mess some dope made when they reversed their Fiat van over the top of my front clam. Worked not bad on the Elise's silver paintwork. Ish. Not today though, just made a streaky mess on the Skoda's Race Blue paintwork.
So then I dug out the Mer. Yes, good old Mer. Shlapped some on with an applicator, more to take away the Meguiar streaks than to treat the scratches really, and - whaddayaknow - they are GONE. Literally. There is one deeper one on the front wing which can still be picked out...if you look hard...but otherwise it's a transformation. I tackled some others elsewhere on the car (in fact I did the whole thing - I'm exhausted, Mer is hard work) and I'm glad I did. Finished just before the rain started too!
And there you have it. My 2p for tonight.
Sorry, no before and after pics though
Campbell
(shiny faction)
(All polishes do this; they don't so much remove scratches as remove the surrounding paint to leave a more level surface).
Skoda paint isn't massively hard so doesn't need a hugely aggressive polish but it's interesting you found the Meguiar's worked on the Elise. All factory painted Loti I've worked on have had quite hard paint and need quite aggressive machine polishing to remove defects. (Fiats have some of the softest paints by the way).
What you might find is a bit of drop back further down the line; essentially the filling and glazing oils, which will sit in the defect (imagine the scratch as a valley, the oils fill that valley giving the impression of a level surface) will wash out over time so you might find the marks reappear to an extent.
You might also find that the Mer will leave a wee bit of hazing behind; the abrasives don't break down as you work them so you may see, in direct sunlight, a slight crazing/starring effect - if you do, the way to overcome it is to use a finer grade of polish or one which breaks down as you work it, leaving a sharper finish.
However, it could be that you've managed to remove the marks, or reduce their appearance to such an extent that they aren't really visible.
The one thing to definitely do is apply a sealant or wax now; that'll help 'lock in' the glazing oils, help protect the paint and also make future cleaning much easier by giving a nice slick surface.
Mair throttle, less brake
Re: Scratches
I prefer my approach - ignore (you cannot see paintwork whilst driving, nor when the car is in the garage and you are in the kitchen ). I get Katie to blindfold me before I go to the garage and I only remove blindfold once in the car
Cheers,
Robin
Cheers,
Robin
I is in your loomz nibblin ur wirez
#bemoretut
#bemoretut
Re: Scratches
Unfortunately Robin it is owners like yourself that give the Forum a bad name to the newbies, who could get the impression that we do not look after our cars.
tut
tut
Re: Scratches
Aha, righto. Your insight is much appreciatedtuscan_thunder wrote: The one thing to definitely do is apply a sealant or wax now; that'll help 'lock in' the glazing oils, help protect the paint and also make future cleaning much easier by giving a nice slick surface.
In my portfolio I currently have Zymol, and also an Autoglym finishing polish of some sort (rarely used it). Would prefer to use Zymol - will that do the trick?
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Re: Scratches
Yes indeed, that'd be perfect.
That way, if the scratch removal has been performed by the glazing oils in the Mer, you won't have your hard work undone as soon as it rains!
That way, if the scratch removal has been performed by the glazing oils in the Mer, you won't have your hard work undone as soon as it rains!
Mair throttle, less brake
Re: Scratches
LOL, well it's rained on it already but I'll take a look when I next get time. If all looks well, Zymol goes straight on. If not, I'll do another round of (light) Mer to bring things back up to scratch (arf) then get round it immediately with the finishing wax.
Jeez this car care nonsense is hard going
Next stop the MINI I suppose...
Jeez this car care nonsense is hard going
Next stop the MINI I suppose...
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Re: Scratches
Mini will have pretty hard paint so you'll have your work cut about by hand!
If you have some spare time these two guides are pretty good: http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog ... ng-do.html http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog ... i-use.html
Get a coffee before you start reading them!
If you have some spare time these two guides are pretty good: http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog ... ng-do.html http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog ... i-use.html
Get a coffee before you start reading them!
Mair throttle, less brake
Re: Scratches
Good technique. I might need to start using the back door to my garage soon, so I don't see all the stone chips on the front of the car when I open the front door.robin wrote:I prefer my approach - ignore (you cannot see paintwork whilst driving, nor when the car is in the garage and you are in the kitchen ). I get Katie to blindfold me before I go to the garage and I only remove blindfold once in the car
Cheers,
Robin
Re: Scratches
Thanks for the guides, John. Interesting reading. Time is against me with such things, I'm afraid, but I really will have a go at doing the 2-stage polish then seal approach as best I can, and see how that plays out. Perhaps just one panel at a time over several washes.
I have just inspected my handiwork, since the torrential rain, and indeed some of the heavier scratches look a bit more prominent again as forecast by you and Steve. The upside is that a lot of the finer stuff is definitely gone. Progress, for sure
I have just inspected my handiwork, since the torrential rain, and indeed some of the heavier scratches look a bit more prominent again as forecast by you and Steve. The upside is that a lot of the finer stuff is definitely gone. Progress, for sure
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