Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day
Mike
Hoping to drop in to see how it goes and some banter, also to say hello to Ricky, but will not be going on the R/R.
tut
Hoping to drop in to see how it goes and some banter, also to say hello to Ricky, but will not be going on the R/R.
tut
Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day
Alicrozier
two4oneUK
Jacobite
Oldminiclub
Mikie711
Sean Murray
Bry607
Scott666
Mr Momo
Grammy
Dods_SuperCorsa
b16bazza (reckon ill come for a nosey, maybe take the black one along 2)
scoobie and zaffy
insanejim69(maybe, prob just come to spectate.)
two4oneUK
Jacobite
Oldminiclub
Mikie711
Sean Murray
Bry607
Scott666
Mr Momo
Grammy
Dods_SuperCorsa
b16bazza (reckon ill come for a nosey, maybe take the black one along 2)
scoobie and zaffy
insanejim69(maybe, prob just come to spectate.)
Elise S2 260
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
Good to meet some old and some new faces today. Hope everybody enjoyed their day. Some photo's of the proceedings




See Phil, told you it needed more weight
Rest of the set is http://www.flickr.com/photos/22331007@N ... 151326703/
As usual I forgot I had the camera in my pocket.................easily distracted me, memory like a sieve
Mike




See Phil, told you it needed more weight

Rest of the set is http://www.flickr.com/photos/22331007@N ... 151326703/
As usual I forgot I had the camera in my pocket.................easily distracted me, memory like a sieve

Mike

Elise S2 260
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
Mike,Mikie711 wrote:Good to meet some old and some new faces today. Hope everybody enjoyed their day. Some photo's of the proceedings
See Phil, told you it needed more weight![]()
Mike
There's a caption contest in there, here's a starter :
"Superlight ARRGGHH"
Like Ali has any hearing left

Great day, great to meet everyone, with a great vibe coming from Ricky and the guys. Thanks for organising.
Now got to check out i) that staple in the rear tyre and ii) bank balance (Dave Andrew's recommendation @ http://www.dvapower.co.uk/ )

Phil.
Emira - Volvo spec
A1 Black Edition - Ilford HP5 spec
A1 Black Edition - Ilford HP5 spec
Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
Might turn out to be the most expensive £45 a few of use spent, going by some of the shopping list I heard being bandy about. Welcome to my world
Mike
Caption, Hey look I can get my fingers to meet in the middle.

Mike
Caption, Hey look I can get my fingers to meet in the middle.
Elise S2 260
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
Is that Paul Golding's father standing watching 

"Here for a good time not a long time"
Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
Thought you were popping by Scotty 

Elise S2 260
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
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Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
Thanks for organising Mike.
Likewise great to catch up with old and new faces.
My car made 231bhp at 7,250rpm (spec is 243). Subsequent runs didn't show any increase when revving up to 8.5K.
Repeated runs showed drops in power with no airflow to the intercooler.

Likewise great to catch up with old and new faces.
My car made 231bhp at 7,250rpm (spec is 243). Subsequent runs didn't show any increase when revving up to 8.5K.
Repeated runs showed drops in power with no airflow to the intercooler.
All characters appearing in this post are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
Any references to laptimes, speed or driving on the public highway are purely for dramatic effect.
Any references to laptimes, speed or driving on the public highway are purely for dramatic effect.
Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
This shows my plot for the 3 runs Ricky did. What surprised him is how little power it actually produces, bearing in mind he has driven the car on a few occasions. However the torque curve, if you can call it that is mighty, same power and torque figures more or less.

One thing is for sure, the only way is up and no wonder I couldn't catch that bloody Exige ...........
Edit: the reason it's climbing every run was that the ECU and wide band lambda was in adaptive mapping mode. So the fueling was getting altered each run and producing more and more power. Was running lean on the top end.
Mike


One thing is for sure, the only way is up and no wonder I couldn't catch that bloody Exige ...........

Edit: the reason it's climbing every run was that the ECU and wide band lambda was in adaptive mapping mode. So the fueling was getting altered each run and producing more and more power. Was running lean on the top end.
Mike
Elise S2 260
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
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Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
That fan doesn't look the best for simulating the air flow round an Elise? I have seen much bigger fans at rolling roads I've used in the past 

Mark MacKenzie
BMW Z4 3.0si, [R14 MMK] To be Ring ready soon
Merc family hack [R4 MMK] 85% MacKenzie'd Family Spec
BMW Z4 3.0si, [R14 MMK] To be Ring ready soon
Merc family hack [R4 MMK] 85% MacKenzie'd Family Spec
Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
Funny you should say that, when we were there a new one arrived. You will definitely need to tie down a Elise when they fire it up. Bear in mind they only got the RR a couple of weeks ago.
Elise S2 260
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
Had to go down to Stirling and collect my BMW.Mikie711 wrote:Thought you were popping by Scotty
"Here for a good time not a long time"
Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
Mike,
That picture showing a single torque&power curve is not right. Power always equals torque at 5250 RPM - your graph crosses at 6,200 or so. This might well be because the rolling road's road speed to engine RPM calibration wasn't set properly or some other setup issue.
Anyway, I suspect the power figure is "correct" and the torque curve can be redrawn as:
power = torque * RPM/5250
OR
torque = power * 5250/RPM.
That assumes that your rolling road was measuring power in the first place and reverse computing torque - some rolling roads measure torque, but I think these are only the hub clamping ones, not the floor rollers.
Cheers,
Robin
That picture showing a single torque&power curve is not right. Power always equals torque at 5250 RPM - your graph crosses at 6,200 or so. This might well be because the rolling road's road speed to engine RPM calibration wasn't set properly or some other setup issue.
Anyway, I suspect the power figure is "correct" and the torque curve can be redrawn as:
power = torque * RPM/5250
OR
torque = power * 5250/RPM.
That assumes that your rolling road was measuring power in the first place and reverse computing torque - some rolling roads measure torque, but I think these are only the hub clamping ones, not the floor rollers.
Cheers,
Robin
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- alicrozier
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Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
It's 'cos the torque is plotted on a 2nd Y-axis (on the right) at a different scale.
Roughly 130 bhp and torques at 5,250 revs.
Roughly 130 bhp and torques at 5,250 revs.

All characters appearing in this post are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
Any references to laptimes, speed or driving on the public highway are purely for dramatic effect.
Any references to laptimes, speed or driving on the public highway are purely for dramatic effect.
Re: Scottish Elise Rolling Road Day **Now with Pictures**
Out of interest Robin why does power=torque at 5250rpm? is this for any engine and what if it doesn't rev to 5250rpm?. Just curious.
Mike
Mike
Elise S2 260
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS
BMW M2 Comp
RRS HST
BMW R1300GS