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Right then, what spares would be worth carrying?
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:02 pm
by Victor Meldrew
To go hillclimbing/sprinting in a nominally std road car, what do I actualy NEED to do..?
And what class would I be entering?
This is what I can remember from previous... please correct me as required.
MSA membership (Non-Race National B)
MSA approved suit (not got one)
MSA approved helmet. (have a helmet but its bike spec)
Sticky out black thing on the front for the timing beams.
What else.?
The car has normal road seat belts for now.
fd wrote:
heh . . . victor you seem determined to spend loads of cash on anything apart from the one thing you have said you want to do - competing . . . the cost of a set of slicks on their own would have you all the safety gear, a licence and an entry to Doune . . . where you will get a order of magnitude bigger buzz than cocking round KH a little faster than some other people . . . really . . . if you turn up with slicks and a 250bhp engine you'll still get creamed by people with half the power on road tyres . . . you still have time to enter Forrestburn . . .
Fd
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:54 pm
by Victor Meldrew
Filling out the application form for the licence now.
Ive had a look through the notes and I think I need a Non-Race National B
Not clear if I need a medical with it or not. It says
"-over 18, applying for a race, truck or kart race licence (see note 24-28) and have never provided a medical report before?"
If I answer yes to the above I need to go to the doc for a report.. but it is a Non-Race National B so I think the answer should be no. The notes are not that clear on this.
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:09 pm
by Victor Meldrew
NOOPS 160 wrote:Interesting you're still up for this lark.......
, might venture along once you get up and running, just to give moral support you understand.
I fully expect the radiator issue to be fixed in the near future... and hopefully the budget is there for the safety gear as well. All the other go faster bits can wait.
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:28 pm
by campbell
Victor Meldrew wrote:All the other go faster bits can wait.
Wise words. Lawrence would probably say "To go faster, first you have to go fast!"
Good luck with the prep.
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:47 pm
by fd
Victor Meldrew wrote:To go hillclimbing/sprinting in a nominally std road car, what do I actualy NEED to do..?
And what class would I be entering?
This is what I can remember from previous... please correct me as required.
MSA membership (Non-Race National B)
MSA approved suit (not got one)
MSA approved helmet. (have a helmet but its bike spec)
Sticky out black thing on the front for the timing beams.
What else.?
Need :-
Non Race National B Licence
MSA suit (can be a proban suit - about 70 quids ish - racing requires nomex - not required for HC/Sprint)
MSA helmet (probaly the single expensive item - Snell SA2005 is the common spec)
Beam Breaker - can be easily made from some sheet ali . . .
OFF sticker for the ignition switch (just so people know which way to turn the ignition to switch it off)
This year list 1a or 1b tyres - which is anything you can fit to an elise
That is all that is required.
For a road legal car - MOT, Insurance and Road Tax must be present and brought to the event. Standard belts are ok.
People turn up to events like this in completely stock road cars . . . and enter road car classes . . .
You'd probably want to enter A8, presuming your car has the original fit engine (ie. isn't a honda S1/S2) . . .
Fd
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:49 pm
by fd
Victor Meldrew wrote:Filling out the application form for the licence now.
Ive had a look through the notes and I think I need a Non-Race National B
Not clear if I need a medical with it or not. It says
"-over 18, applying for a race, truck or kart race licence (see note 24-28) and have never provided a medical report before?"
If I answer yes to the above I need to go to the doc for a report.. but it is a Non-Race National B so I think the answer should be no. The notes are not that clear on this.
No medical required. It's a Non Race National B which does not require a medical, even if you upgrade like I have to a Speed Nat A no medical is required . . .
Fd
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:02 pm
by Mikie711
You also need to be a member of an MSA registered club, if you did Kames you should have a EACC membership which will cover you. When choosing a helmet worth bearing in mind that there is talk of the MSA dropping the BS 6658 type A spec from the approved list in the not to distant future. This is to supposedly take out of circulation 10 year old helmets!!. What it means is any older 2yr+ bike helmets that carry this approval will not be eligible for competitions. In a nut shell if you are buying a new helmet, like FD says make sure its Snell SA2005 approved and you won't have to change it. Once you get your license you will get a copy of the "blue book" which has all the rules and regs in it. And if you think it's all very confusing now, wait till you've had a read of it
As FD said Class A8 is what you will be entering with a road going Elise, as long as it's got it's original block, pretty much everything, tuning and suspension wise, is free.
Look forward to seeing you in the future.
Which events are you planning on doing BTW?
Mike
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:35 pm
by Victor Meldrew
Mikie711 wrote:You also need to be a member of an MSA registered club, if you did Kames you should have a EACC membership which will cover you. When choosing a helmet worth bearing in mind that there is talk of the MSA dropping the BS 66528 type A spec from the approved list in the not to distant future. This is to supposedly take out of circulation 10 year old helmets!!. What it means is any older 2yr+ bike helmets that carry this approval will not be eligible for competitions. In a nut shell if you are buying a new helmet, like FD says make sure its Snell SA2005 approved and you won't have to change it. Once you get your license you will get a copy of the "blue book" which has all the rules and regs in it. And if you think it's all very confusing now, wait till you've had a read of it
As FD said Class A8 is what you will be entering with a road going Elise, as long as it's got it's original block, pretty much everything, tuning and suspension wise, is free.
Look forward to seeing you in the future.
Which events are you planning on doing BTW?
Mike
Dont know yet.. any sprint or hillclimb I am home for would do me. Will wait till I get all the gear sorted then start hunting for events in ernest.
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:37 pm
by campbell
NOOPS 160 wrote:
Spooky
you should say that cambell ..I retraced the run Lawrance,Mags and I did last year in his Europa, just today
. These were his very words to me in the midst of a discussion we were having whilst having tea in Eyemouth.
Wise words indeed.....
In fairness, the fella probably said those words to me or in my company at some point in the past! They rank up there alongside "to use less fuel, you need to use the brakes less"...took me a while to work that one out but michty-me did it stick!!
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:36 am
by Victor Meldrew
Membership application away in the post....
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:36 am
by Andy G
Hey John
Reading your post and thought it may be better to get an idea of the class or amount of comp you intend to do, and then start getting th gear best suited to that?
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:21 am
by Victor Meldrew
Andy G wrote:Hey John
Reading your post and thought it may be better to get an idea of the class or amount of comp you intend to do, and then start getting th gear best suited to that?
Was planning to get the base level FIA approved suit (£220) and a decent helmet (£300)... as you never know what may happen down the line.... I have the boots/gloves/underwear
8856-2000 spec already.
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:07 am
by Shug
Victor Meldrew wrote:. I have the boots/gloves/underwear
8856-2000 spec already.
Was that for your 'role playing' evenings with the missus then?
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:34 pm
by Victor Meldrew
Shug wrote:Victor Meldrew wrote:. I have the boots/gloves/underwear
8856-2000 spec already.
Was that for your 'role playing' evenings with the missus then?
Now now... you said you'd never tell...
Re: Ok then, what do I NEED to do to the car, and me
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:46 am
by bertieduff
I got a nomex suit you can borrow if you want...
(wasted on me
)