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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by mac » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:16 am

dirkpitt wrote:woody/shug,

:D perfect, was thinking monklands, but will download form and join........kames looks perfect for my virgin pre season practice..

oh typical jamie :cry: its the red one i liked :roll: ...oh well white it is :lol: thanks for the linky's too

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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by Gourlay83 » Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:05 pm

Scotty C wrote:you need heat to get pressures up and this will take minutes not seconds = you will need higher tyre pressures for a sprints & hill climbs. Read you pressures as soon as you come off track, they should be around 28-30, then work it from there.

back in the day when i raced, i started off at 16-18 psi, but this was for 20-30 minute races.

this was for 48's.
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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by fd » Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:54 pm

Depends on the tyres, crossplys are completely different and need a lot less pressure . . . the tyre of choice on a caterham (for example) is the ACB-10 which is a crossply and 16psi is the upper limit for sprints/hills.

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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by Digital » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:22 pm

Anyone planning on doing the test day on the 23rd? Quite fancy another Kames outing this year, would be good to get more of a feel for the car than my 5 laps or so at the SIDC day before I broke it :blackeye
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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by kevham » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:55 pm

I had been thinking about going down but I have a few jobs to do on the Saxo so I probably won't make it.
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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by Digital » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:26 pm

kevham wrote:I had been thinking about going down but I have a few jobs to do on the Saxo so I probably won't make it.
Hi Kevin, your blog and postings on here was one of the things that got me thinking about trying my hand at hillclimbs and sprints. Your new car looks like fun :thumbsup

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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by Victor Meldrew » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:00 pm

Just want to throw my 2p into the melting pot as it were...

Ok, I probably spent more money than was wise, doing things to the car that didn't need done and turned a reasonably reliable car into a ticking time bomb...

So.. advice from someone who learned the expensive way... don't do a thing to your car, keep it completely road stock.. if you want to compete after you've had a taste then buy another car and race in a class with more entrants.

I rememmber reading one of the race reports and the classes were merged because there wasn't enough in A8. Not sure how that worked to be honest....
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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by kevham » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:28 pm

Digital wrote:
kevham wrote:I had been thinking about going down but I have a few jobs to do on the Saxo so I probably won't make it.
Hi Kevin, your blog and postings on here was one of the things that got me thinking about trying my hand at hillclimbs and sprints. Your new car looks like fun :thumbsup

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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by dirkpitt » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:48 am

thanks for the all the all the info ...its very much appreciated! :thumbsup

im under no illusion about being the next lee adams and breaking every record in the book here.... the idea was to get the whole competition and motorsport feel and to really increase my racer driving skills. i figure this is the best and cost effective way to get into motorsport :thumbsup

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i may just do that!.......my partner in crime in work, cuts the grass and helps out on the forrestburn hillclimbs, Douglas Hamilton………some of you may know him, and its our beep beep chat that got me interested in the whole sprint and hillclimb escapade, and he suggested Monklands.

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yeah I hear what your saying, and I am not going to start adding S/C and other major mods to the car….i want to keep her n/a. the only mods are TRD induction box and a stage 2 exhaust….

The only other change I was thinking was to send the ECU of to hanger 111 for a remap to help take use of the induction and exhaust etc and a lower cam change, and possibly removing the CAT, but that is it!

Leigh :thumbsup

P.S if anyone has a spare 2 layer nomex race suit, size 52-54, collecting dust in the attic I would be interested?

oh and also, i was thinking of getting an uprated clutch and light flywheel.....but thats it!,honest :blackeye
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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by I-Mac » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:39 pm

Hi mate,

I am in A8.

For A8, all you need for your car are (some of this is a repeat of the helpful stuff already mentioned) a Timing Strut (Regs on this can be found in the blue book for size and height above ground), Yellow tape your -ve Batt Terminal and lead off the battery, Tape up your other battery points, have ready and take with you the V5, MOT & Insurance Details - As for A8 car has to be on the road (though doesnt matter if it is registered in your name etc etc) A good Helment, Nomex Suit, Gloves and Booties. It is the road car class so everything has to be able to be used on the road :) You wil be in with other lotuses, ginettas, mx5's and other "Marque" sports cars :) - Hope this helps :)

Its great fun and really good banter - Just turn up and speak to whoever is beside you in the paddock and they will no-doubt help you out :)
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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by Mikie711 » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:16 am

dirkpitt wrote:P.S if anyone has a spare 2 layer nomex race suit, size 52-54, collecting dust in the attic I would be interested?
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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by dirkpitt » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:36 pm

Mikie711 wrote:
dirkpitt wrote:P.S if anyone has a spare 2 layer nomex race suit, size 52-54, collecting dust in the attic I would be interested?
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:wavey ......pm me the details on suit, mike. please.......don’t suppose you have any race numbers lying around, when the time comes, as well :),........maybe an adjustable ARB and some nice one way nitrons in your possession,too :wink: :D :leave

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any details on your single seat car to hand?....inquiring minds want to know :wink:

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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by KevD » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:20 pm

How much are the sprint practise sessions? Would it be daft to view it as an alternative to trackdays where you dont have to worry about other cars?

No looking at it as a chance to compete, just another way to drive like a loon on the track and improve my skills & drills. Why am I typing this rather than out driving?!

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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by mac » Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:23 pm

Sprint circuit's by their very nature are tight, twisty and designed to be difficult to drive quickly on. The run off in places can be limited and going off can be expensive.

The bonus as you mention is the lack of traffic (although you may annoy folk if their time is restricted because you have to be dragged backwards out of the tyres.

As a cheap alternative to trackdays - I'm not so sure.


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Re: sprint and hillclimb wannabe!

Post by Shug » Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:12 pm

KevD wrote:How much are the sprint practise sessions? Would it be daft to view it as an alternative to trackdays where you dont have to worry about other cars?

No looking at it as a chance to compete, just another way to drive like a loon on the track and improve my skills & drills. Why am I typing this rather than out driving?!
As an alternative to trackdays - pretty poor.

Plusses, no other cars on track, very cheap to attend. Depends on how many are there, but I've spent as little as £20 on one. Limited time on track focuses you on what you're doing.

Minuses, sprint tracks are really nadgery and you can make a proper mess of your car if you get it wrong - there is runoff at one corner at Kames, and it's not the fast one. You usually get a "run": 1 out, 1 fast, 1 in lap - so you don't get any rhythm built, unlike a TD, where you can lap and lap, getting a feel for the rhythm and exploring boundaries. Then, you go back to the end of the queue and it can be anything up to an hour until your next 5 minutes of tracktime. Mass has organised some very numbers-limited days at Kames, which worked well, but it's still a case of wait, wait, wait - quick burn, then wait, wait, wait... Good if you are practising to compete, but you don't learn much as a newbie.

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