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Fascinating insight into current F1 engine competitiveness
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:51 pm
by campbell
Enlightening article.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/26946444
Any engineers want to chip in?
Re: Fascinating insight into current F1 engine competitivene
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:29 pm
by BiggestNizzy
As I read it they have been very clever in their design and have split the turbo and added a motor/generator in the middle
excuse my shoddy graphic
Allowing them to either harvest energy or use it to spool the turbo up/power the wheels. and it keeps the hot parts well away from the bits you want cool.
Re: Fascinating insight into current F1 engine competitivene
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:47 pm
by graeme
It's not just the electric motor/generator in the middle, it's the whole engine!
In a previous discussion offline, Woody pointed out the similarities to the layout of a jet engine... cold air goes in the front end, gets compressed, gets burned in the middle, then gets used (again) at the back, with a shaft through the middle joining it all together. When he put it like that, it sounds like such an obvious evolution of the turbo'd engine layout, but I really think it's a bloody impressive step to take something so well established and rethink it completely.
The list of benefits is so big, and the technical difficulty seems to have been overcome, which is amazing. Genius idea, brilliant execution.
Very exciting stuff, and definitely something we'll be seeing in road cars in years to come. Amazing what happens when the rules get shaken up.
Re: Fascinating insight into current F1 engine competitivene
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:15 pm
by Lazydonkey
When you start talking like that I don't see how anyone can see the rules being anything other than a great thing! Sport gets shaken up, road cars benefit and the fans benefit. I guess the only downside is the new technology isn't cheap and as such the smaller teams wouldn't be able to benefit as much. But i guess they've always had customer engines...
Re: Fascinating insight into current F1 engine competitivene
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:39 pm
by campbell
I think Tut's new N3.5 has something similar!!
Re: Fascinating insight into current F1 engine competitivene
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:24 am
by Fluoxetine
Was interested to read in Autosport the other week that if they removed the 100kg per hour fuel flow restriction, the new engines could easily produce 1500bhp +
(They did, of course, achieve 1500bhp from 1.5 engines in the 80's (in qually trim), but they were 3 lap wonders...Be fascinating to see how long a current engine lasted at its full potential, and how quickly it'd lap with modern aero / suspension & brakes...)
