Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
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Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
Starting early....
I'm helping KH / KMSC get a list together of folk that are interested in competing. There weren't many Lotus' involved last year, so would be good to see some out.
website http://superlapscotland.co.uk/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/SuperlapScotland
So.... Whos in? If you are interested in competing please drop a quick email to club@superlapscotland.co.uk or leave your details on here with some basic info - Name, car, rough power/weight.
2015 Class Structure
There are some minor tweaks to the classes for 2015 to try and make the classes fairer.
Pro: > 450 bhp per tonne
A: 351 - 450 bhp per tonne
B: 271 - 350 bhp per tonne
C: 211 - 270bhp per tonne
D: 161 - 210 bhp per tonne
E: <160 bhp per tonne
Also Team Trophy and Road Car Championships to contest as well as the Class and overall King Of The Hill
Provisional dates announced....
Round 1 - Sunday 19th April 2015 Knockhill
Round 2 - Saturday 23rd May 2015 Knockhill
Round 3 - Sunday 24th May 2015 Knockhill
Round 4 - Saturday 25th July 2015 Knockhill
Round 5 - Sunday 26th July 2015 Knockhill
Round 6 - Sunday 20th Sept. 2015 Knockhill
Costs...
The entry fees are
- One day event = £175
- Double Header= £265
- Full Season (6 rounds) = £750
Second Drivers
- One day event = £150
- Double Header= £220
Structure....
4 sessions throughout the day
20min open pit warmup
20min open pit practice
3x2 hot lap Qualifying <scored>
1 hot lap final <scored>
I'm helping KH / KMSC get a list together of folk that are interested in competing. There weren't many Lotus' involved last year, so would be good to see some out.
website http://superlapscotland.co.uk/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/SuperlapScotland
So.... Whos in? If you are interested in competing please drop a quick email to club@superlapscotland.co.uk or leave your details on here with some basic info - Name, car, rough power/weight.
2015 Class Structure
There are some minor tweaks to the classes for 2015 to try and make the classes fairer.
Pro: > 450 bhp per tonne
A: 351 - 450 bhp per tonne
B: 271 - 350 bhp per tonne
C: 211 - 270bhp per tonne
D: 161 - 210 bhp per tonne
E: <160 bhp per tonne
Also Team Trophy and Road Car Championships to contest as well as the Class and overall King Of The Hill
Provisional dates announced....
Round 1 - Sunday 19th April 2015 Knockhill
Round 2 - Saturday 23rd May 2015 Knockhill
Round 3 - Sunday 24th May 2015 Knockhill
Round 4 - Saturday 25th July 2015 Knockhill
Round 5 - Sunday 26th July 2015 Knockhill
Round 6 - Sunday 20th Sept. 2015 Knockhill
Costs...
The entry fees are
- One day event = £175
- Double Header= £265
- Full Season (6 rounds) = £750
Second Drivers
- One day event = £150
- Double Header= £220
Structure....
4 sessions throughout the day
20min open pit warmup
20min open pit practice
3x2 hot lap Qualifying <scored>
1 hot lap final <scored>
Re: Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
Having done both years, all I can say is that it's been great fun and very rewarding. There's a real sense of competition without the bumper to bumper racing that some might not want to expose their cars to. I average about 30-40 laps per event with 7 potential point scoring laps (6 qualifying and 1 final)
For me, this moved my driving to a whole new level. It is amazing how, without the traffic, you can up your commitment and transform your lap times.
Don't be put off by the regs - you simply compete on a 'power to weight' ratio. For scrutineering purposes, the car needs to comply with one of the MSA sprint classes.
As a taste, here's my final run from July this year. The out lap is all about getting tyres and brakes hot before maximising speed over the line and the flying lap itself.
For me, this moved my driving to a whole new level. It is amazing how, without the traffic, you can up your commitment and transform your lap times.
Don't be put off by the regs - you simply compete on a 'power to weight' ratio. For scrutineering purposes, the car needs to comply with one of the MSA sprint classes.
As a taste, here's my final run from July this year. The out lap is all about getting tyres and brakes hot before maximising speed over the line and the flying lap itself.
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Re: Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
I'm interested but as usual time is the enemy, I'd say 50:50 at best.
As a very rough calculation I assume it would be safely in class C (see below)?
and 'Road-Going Specialist Production = Limited production unmodified road cars (S11)'?
Ali Crozier
Lotus 2-eleven
260bhp/ton
260 bhp
15% drivetrain losses
750 kg weight inc. half tank fuel
100 kg driver
221 bhp power at wheels
850 kg total weight
260 power to weight per SLS
As a very rough calculation I assume it would be safely in class C (see below)?
and 'Road-Going Specialist Production = Limited production unmodified road cars (S11)'?
Ali Crozier
Lotus 2-eleven
260bhp/ton
260 bhp
15% drivetrain losses
750 kg weight inc. half tank fuel
100 kg driver
221 bhp power at wheels
850 kg total weight
260 power to weight per SLS
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Re: Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
sounds near enough right Ali....
Power train losses of 15% were closer to those seen by 4wd cars, so maybe use a 12% estimate. Who knows what will be closer until its tested/certified though
12% would give ~230whp assuming the power is as per Lotus states.
so ~270 whp/tonne - right on the edge of C and B. Eat a couple of pies in the morning and slot into C
I cant see a problem with the 2-11, but maybe check with Renny (scrutineer@superlapscotland.co.uk) to make sure there are no surprises.
Power train losses of 15% were closer to those seen by 4wd cars, so maybe use a 12% estimate. Who knows what will be closer until its tested/certified though
12% would give ~230whp assuming the power is as per Lotus states.
so ~270 whp/tonne - right on the edge of C and B. Eat a couple of pies in the morning and slot into C
I cant see a problem with the 2-11, but maybe check with Renny (scrutineer@superlapscotland.co.uk) to make sure there are no surprises.
Re: Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
No way Ali, are you planning on putting on 20kgs over Xmas?!alicrozier wrote:100 kg driver
I was working mine out again as I'd still like to give it a go. 193 WHP (assuming 12% loss), 880kg car plus 90kg driver still gets me in class D at 200 whp/ton. Probably slightly less than this given the aircon and carpets will mean it's probably heavier than the lower estimate.
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Re: Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
BigD wrote:No way Ali, are you planning on putting on 20kgs over Xmas?!alicrozier wrote:100 kg driver
I was working mine out again as I'd still like to give it a go. 193 WHP (assuming 12% loss), 880kg car plus 90kg driver still gets me in class D at 200 whp/ton. Probably slightly less than this given the aircon and carpets will mean it's probably heavier than the lower estimate.
Probably conservative (I'm 89kg dry weight), suited and booted plus Helmet and HANS...
You'll be more than 90kg with your lead boots?
(and yeah, I'd be very surprised if yours only weighs 880kg)
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Re: Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
I think the book weight on the Touring is 916kgs so probably slightly more than that.alicrozier wrote:BigD wrote:No way Ali, are you planning on putting on 20kgs over Xmas?!alicrozier wrote:100 kg driver
I was working mine out again as I'd still like to give it a go. 193 WHP (assuming 12% loss), 880kg car plus 90kg driver still gets me in class D at 200 whp/ton. Probably slightly less than this given the aircon and carpets will mean it's probably heavier than the lower estimate.
Probably conservative (I'm 89kg dry weight), suited and booted plus Helmet and HANS...
You'll be more than 90kg with your lead boots?
(and yeah, I'd be very surprised if yours only weighs 880kg)
I'm more than 90kgs in my birthday suit so no argument there.
At this rate I might make Class E.
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Yep, who knows what it would actually make on the rollers.TrackScotland wrote:Who knows what will be closer until its tested/certified though
Just ballpark and it would be whatever it is...and whatever class.
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Re: Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
Planning on doing as many rounds as I am home for with the new car. It will all be down to dates of the events and my schedule.
1100kg(ish) + 85kg =1185kg
345bhp (published) = 310whp = 260bhp/tonne
1100kg(ish) + 85kg =1185kg
345bhp (published) = 310whp = 260bhp/tonne
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Re: Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
Mikie711 wrote:Planning on doing as many rounds as I am home for with the new car. It will all be down to dates of the events and my schedule.
All that carbon tat and Cup R power will put you in new class B!
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Re: Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
alicrozier wrote:Mikie711 wrote:Planning on doing as many rounds as I am home for with the new car. It will all be down to dates of the events and my schedule.
All that carbon tat and Cup R power will put you in new class B!
Class C likely, she's still heavy and I am getting fat
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Are you thinking of entering a Scottish Elise's team?
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Kenny, likely SE apathy will kick in and none of us will do anything
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Re: Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
really would like to give this a go but cost and work schedule probably would get in the way, how far in advance do you need to book for single event?
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Re: Super Lap Scotland 2015 - Interest
Yep, just do not get the same quality of member nowadays.Mikie711 wrote:Kenny, likely SE apathy will kick in and none of us will do anything
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