advice for buying a smashed s2

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mainsy
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advice for buying a smashed s2

Post by mainsy » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:18 pm

my friend wants to purchase an s2 but doesnt have stacks of cash to do it. he has spotted one at the local scrapper for £4600. i havent seen it, but i heard alarm bells when he said the price. i thought it must be hit sore for that price. it has been hit at the front, so immediately it needs new lights, clam, radiator, wheels suspension and so on. im trying to get an idea what this would cost cos i think it will be a few grand. he thinks the chassis can be welded?? i know it comes glued, so is this a rule?
i think he would be better buying an s1, but he likes the newer shape.

clam £500? before gel coat?
new chassis frame £????

any input would be welcome. i think he's gonna put down a deposit on thursday.

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Post by Rich H » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:30 pm

If the chassis needs fixing then walk away. Not worth it.

He owuld be better off getting a tatty but running S1 and doing that up or its going to cost him more in fixing a broken (And possibly irreparable) S2.

Or save the pennies for now...

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Post by r10crw » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:37 pm

Have to agree with Rich, certain parts of the chassis can be repaired but the vast majority not. If hes never had anything to do elises before he wont be able to judge and could end up with nothing more than a lotus ornament! x
Are you able to put up pics?
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Post by mainsy » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:42 pm

wont be able to get pics till thursday as its shut the now for drunken festivities.

does any one know what a front end build could cost? i know its all dependant, but a rough figure.

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Post by Edin430 » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:48 pm

By someone who knows what they are doing you are talking 5k for a full front end I'd imagine :?:

Depening on how big a job...!

Also Chassis damage - dont touch it - with a barge pole... EVER..

Oh and new Clam.. New would be £1000-1500

Edited to say - Second hand would be closer to your £500 :wink:

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Post by steve_weegie » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:59 pm

At the very least, it will need clams. It may also need the crash structure which is bonded onto the bulkead. This is not cheap, or easy to fix.

If the suspension pickup points have been damaged, you're into nightmare territory.

Unless he's got experience, or friends with experience of rebuilding crashed elises, it may proove more expensive than buying one that already works....
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Post by BiggestNizzy » Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:12 pm

walk away

it doesn't have 2 black stripes does it ;)
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Post by ExigeKen » Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:55 pm

BiggestNizzy wrote:walk away

it doesn't have 2 black stripes does it ;)
ha ha p1ss off :finger

But I guess I will soon be able to answer all the above questions re costs :oops:
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Post by hiscot » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:59 pm

wheels and suspension should have alarm bells ringing
if the chassis / wishbone mount is torn the car is a total loss
i looked at quite a few that where cat d but with damaged chassis as most insurer accesors dont understand the elise
i have also seen repaired/cocked up welded chassis cars for sale so beware its a big no no
i opted for one that was a cat c but hit square on the nose so no chassis damage
front clam , crash box rad rad housing bonnet windscreen ect ect it had torn clam fixing nr the windscreen and that stuctue is bonded like the crashbox but can be a real easy repair the crash box is quite hard to remove and then to clean up the chassis before fitting a new one
the odds and sods also add up to overall cost, factor in ball joints wheel bearings and rack refurb if the wheels show any dammage
check out the battery even if undamaged ( they break with impact but s2 in the boot ? ) as the car will off been lying around for some time
the elise is not cheap to repair but e bay is your friend get a new crash box thou as i was offered quite a few so called repaired ones ( s2 i think where approx £650 s1 £500 )
s2 parts tend to cost a lot more than a s1
i enjoyed rebuilding mine but a s2 car is a better car to start from imo as any faults a s1 can have ,mines had them eg sill pipe ,red hose ,fuel pump, rack, alarm,toe links ,exhaust, ect ect ect
if he is not sure walk away
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