India unveils worlds sh1ttest Car!

Post by **Shug** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:34 pm

Dominic wrote:I have had the very scary experience of being driven (slowly) in a chevy (AKA Daewoo) matiz. The thought of being hit by any thing was quite terrifying. Can't help but think that would be similar. Looks like it's handling would be unsafe too, with the tall body on tiny wheels. IMHO.

I love the concept of a small, light weight, cheap car. I would love to see something along the lines of the orginal mini again,... and would prob have one if they made it.

Dom, when was the last time you were in an original Mini (I think I can guess..) Did you feel any more safe?

Guarantee you that the Matiz would have protected you much more than the Min in a shunt.

rossybee · Post by **rossybee** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:46 pm

Shug wrote:Not gonna get into Darwinism chat, but perhaps if our cars seemed a little less safe, the standards of driving would increase?

/controversial?

Not in the slightest bit controversial mate, but very true IMHO

rossybee · Post by **rossybee** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:47 pm

Shug wrote:
Dominic wrote:I have had the very scary experience of being driven (slowly) in a chevy (AKA Daewoo) matiz. The thought of being hit by any thing was quite terrifying. Can't help but think that would be similar. Looks like it's handling would be unsafe too, with the tall body on tiny wheels. IMHO.

I love the concept of a small, light weight, cheap car. I would love to see something along the lines of the orginal mini again,... and would prob have one if they made it.
Dom, when was the last time you were in an original Mini (I think I can guess..) Did you feel any more safe?

Guarantee you that the Matiz would have protected you much more than the Min in a shunt.

You've both driven/been driven in a Caterham, aye?

BiggestNizzy · Post by **BiggestNizzy** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:16 pm

Safest car in the world is one with explosives on the fuel tank rigged up to triggers on the front and rear bumpers and a big spike on the steering wheel, if everyone drove them there would be zero accidents! modern cars detatch the drivers from the road and thats no fun thats why people buy silly sports & old cars.

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:27 pm

I take my hat of to Tata for seeing a gap in the indian market and filling it. Do you honestly think that the car will be less safe than a family of 4 on a motorbike, none of whom will be wearing anything safer than a shirt?

Yes, by European standards it'll be substandard, but with so little on it there is so little to go wrong. You won't need to take it back to your specialist dealer for £70+/hr labour, you'll just fix it at home. As its just an engine with seats it probably won't breakdown either.

And I don't think many motorists in India really give a hoot about the how many starts it will (won't) score in the EuroNCAP tests

Well done Tata

If it ever comes to the UK, Tata will inflate the price to £4000 and exploit us for a change

jason · Post by **jason** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:25 pm

Shug wrote:Not gonna get into Darwinism chat, but perhaps if our cars seemed a little less safe, the standards of driving would increase?

/controversial?

No. Agree 100%

I firmly believe the fact that cars are more protective - and also that they generally require far less attention and input to drive quickly than, say, 20yrs ago - is directly responsible for perceived poorer driving standards today. And manufacturers continue to provide drivers with more tools of that ilk - eg. radar braking control.

[/rant off]

Plus the deskilling that new legislation seems determined to persue

...but don't want to get O/T.

Dominic · Post by **Dominic** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:50 pm

Shug wrote:
Dominic wrote:I have had the very scary experience of being driven (slowly) in a chevy (AKA Daewoo) matiz. The thought of being hit by any thing was quite terrifying. Can't help but think that would be similar. Looks like it's handling would be unsafe too, with the tall body on tiny wheels. IMHO.

I love the concept of a small, light weight, cheap car. I would love to see something along the lines of the orginal mini again,... and would prob have one if they made it.
Dom, when was the last time you were in an original Mini (I think I can guess..) Did you feel any more safe?

Guarantee you that the Matiz would have protected you much more than the Min in a shunt.

The sense of fear was down to the driver on that occassion

graeme · Post by **graeme** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:49 pm

Shug wrote:Not gonna get into Darwinism chat, but perhaps if our cars seemed a little less safe, the standards of driving would increase?

/controversial?

Not at all mate... couldn't agree more!!!

"So, small cars it is then. "But I have to drive on the motorway", they cry. Don't even begin to tell me weight in a car is necessary because safety equipment is heavy. And don't try to tell me it's progress. Take it out. All of it. Airbags, SIPS, the lot. Stop decreasing the standards of driving on our roads by adding a 2-ton safety cocoon of perceived invincibility around every moron who can demonstrate the ability to reverse round a corner! Replace it all with a proper L-test followed by real driver training. Driver training works! "

From my big-car-are-the-devil rant in this thread: http://www.scottishelises.com/phpbb/vie ... highlight=

k12chu · Post by **k12chu** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:00 am

TATA with small car... big mistake. there is no space in india to fit more cars. there are already too many on the road.
tata cars; we have had 3 tata vehicles at home in the last 15 years or so; and all of them SH*T!!
their turbo vehicles were even worse.
wonder how the small car will sell. probably a lot of people would buy in india.

tut · Post by **tut** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:05 pm

Well they still build the 1954 Morris Oxford there, renamed the Hindustan Ambassador.

Their top of the range car is the Hindustan Contessa, a reconstituted 1972 Vauxhall Victor!

tut

k12chu · Post by **k12chu** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:52 pm

ambassador is still quite a common car there. mostly taxis though. some old men think the car is as strong as a battle tank.

check out the old n new ambassador.

old ambassador
note the nylon tyres!

new ambassador

they changed the headlight after so many years

contessa has been extinct for sometime now. dont remember seeing one in the last 10 yrs.
the contessa classic was the one to be seen in. it was very different from the regular contessa. (it had seat belts

) it was actually my dad had one in 1990, for a year or so.
man.... i cant be writing essays in here.

k12chu · Post by **k12chu** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:53 pm

apparently there is an export version of it for the UK market. never seen one here though.
all i know is, it has alloy wheels