Doubt it'll work....but hey, I'm in.....Shell here I come!

woody · Post by **woody** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:20 pm

And council Tax was pegged here for a year?

And Venezuela have Government subsidised fuel...

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:00 pm

mckeann wrote: Yes, the ineos refinery (old BP) at grangemouth supplies all of scotland, and some of northern england, regardless of what petrol station you go to.

What about Ross Chemicals? Are they not supplied by tankers from overseas (hence for example the silicon contamination at Tesco)? As far as I'm aware the big people get their fuel from Grangemouth from one tank. Then they can add their own additives to it. Supermarkets get no additive, Esso/BP/Shell add their own stuff etc. Some supermarkets and other smaller places (Gleaner possibly...) can also get from Ross Chemicals which supply any old crap from overseas from a tanker that may or may not have been cleaned out properly (a la Tesco/silicon saga).

Or am I making that up McKeann??

RDH · Post by **RDH** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:04 pm

GregR wrote:I thought interest rates were set to fall?

Should do - I reckon next month or March

meatball · Post by **meatball** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:54 pm

GregR wrote:Just seen the hostile response this thread got on the C*CK - nice the way they make infrequent posters feel welcome isn't it?

Indeed.......I almost put on my face of concern.......well not really!

Edin430 · Post by **Edin430** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:45 pm

I think I am the only one that doesn't bother too much about fuel prices going up

I never let me petrol get too low so about 20 litres always fill it up.. I don't see the big deal in paying £22 rather than the £20 I was paying this time last year

2bh it could prob go up to about £1.50 a litre I still wouldn't care too much!

(I'd obviously not be saying this btw if it cost me 100 quid to fill my car up like some of the big cars out there!)

Stevoraith · Post by **Stevoraith** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:05 am

Tom wrote: As far as I'm aware the big people get their fuel from Grangemouth from one tank. Then they can add their own additives to it. Supermarkets get no additive, Esso/BP/Shell add their own stuff etc.

Not sure about the Ross Chemicals bit, but what you wrote above is spot on, hence why supermarket fuel is a rip-off!

I used to get annoyed at the original e-mail when it was first sent round about 4 or 5 years ago but now I can't be bothered getting worked up.

It's so full of errors it's not true- BP and Exxon Mobil the same company? Yeah right.
Add to that the fact that petrol sales in the UK are an insignificant fraction of a tiny percentage of oil companies profits and you come to the conclusion that they wouldn't really give a flying fcuk if you didn't buy petrol from them.

If this email were to be followed all it would achieve would be to put the garage owners out of business and make people lose jobs.

And saying that the problem lies with greedy oil companies and not huge levels of tax is just ignorance beyond belief.

tut · Post by **tut** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:03 am

For some reason Staywarm decreased my electricity bill from £126/month to £102 for the coming year.

I must not be using enough.................

tut

Post by **pete** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:18 pm

tut wrote:As much as I dislike paying £1.05/litre, most of it in tax, I accept that if the Government did not get the revenue from this, they would have to get it from elsewhere.

It brings in a massive amount, and any decrease would have to be made good from raised income tax or similar.

tut

Any party that says it is going to reduce fuel duty MUST fill that shortfall from some other source. At the end of the day it is just an (excise) revenue stream.
Any (British) political party that includes in it's manifesto a statement that it will increase income tax will not get elected, therefore any political party requires to raise a proportion of its revenue from indirect taxation as direct taxation is massively unpopular.

Personally I think road tax should be abolished and they should stick the money on fuel, there would be saving as it would require no admin and no extra enforcement. It would benefit me (and others on here) as multiple vehicle ownership would be a more affordable proposition as fixed costs would reduce. But it won't happen because it would remove the subsidy that road haulage receives (they pay far less in road tax than their cost to the UK road network) which would have a knock on effect on the UK economy as a whole.

I don't wih to cause offence but whilsyt this sort of thing seems like a good idea on first read it is a very simplistic view of economics, if economics were that easy we'd all be living in a Utopia.

My twopenneth (although that was more like 50pence).

Pete

Post by **campbell** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:31 pm

RDH wrote:
GregR wrote:I thought interest rates were set to fall?
Should do - I reckon next month or March

Yeah realise all that, but note..."Interest may go down as well as up"

meatball · Post by **meatball** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:52 pm

To totally contradict myself my last two tanks of petrol have been optimax.....which has given me 30-40miles extra per tank......weird!

meatball · Post by **meatball** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:57 pm

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080 ... e80_1.html
Looks like I should have bought shell shares before posting this thread!

Dominic · Post by **Dominic** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:11 pm

meatball wrote:http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080 ... e80_1.html
Looks like I should have bought shell shares before posting this thread!

I don't mind shell making huge profits. They are still the cheapest station in my area. They also sent my my vouchers for fuel two days ago

, with extra bonus points.

Dominic · Post by **Dominic** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:14 pm

meatball wrote:To totally contradict myself my last two tanks of petrol have been optimax.....which has given me 30-40miles extra per tank......weird!

The golf gets better mpg on the good stuff too. It is suppose to run on 97RON, and being a turbo car, is more sensitive to better fuel (apparently). V-power more than pays for itself in extra MPG

(that's what I tell Louise anyway

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