Falling on Ice

[cloggie]

Anyone else notice this on the 1st link
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-New ... ll,_Oxford

Superintendent Andrew Murray, Oxford City commander, said: "The snow has a habit of bringing out the child in all of us.
"I have spoken to the officers concerned and reminded them in no uncertain terms that tobogganing on duty is a very bad idea."

[graeme]

Here's some helpful advice for the litigiously stupid: Dihydrogen monoxide in solid form when in contact with most materials, and certainly those commonly used to make shoes and tyres, has a particularly low frictional coefficient. There's not much evidence that this has varied much in the past 4.5 billion f*cking years, so we can probably go ahead and assume that it won't change much tomorrow either and ice could well still be slippery, so take care folks!

[Doc883]

Ian went into a pothole on the way to work today, but we do not know if it has caused damage. However he has taken photos and we will check the car when he gets home. tut

The M8 is littered with pot holes and uneven sections now because of the snow/ice so bit of a nightmare when driving home from work when it's dark as you have no chance of seeing them to take avoiding action. I can see garages being pretty busy over the coming weeks/months with suspension related damage

[annpan]

I fell on ice a few years ago and broke my elbow. Looked in to claiming the local council but no one would take the case on. Very difficult to prove they were at fault.

I work for a legal firm in glasgow who do the no win no fee thing and its not something they would try and raise a case on. Maybe different in you are in a shop car park, the shop might then be at fault.

[Doc883]

My work has made a half hearted attempt at clearing the carpark and today they have stuck up a sign to say that you use the carpark at your own risk. Legality wise I don't think the notice is worth the paper it's printed on and they can't simply absolve all responsibilty to the staff. I work for Nokia-Siemens as a contract staff member, the site is operated and maintained by Johnsons Controls and owned by Orange It's Johnson Controls who have posted the notice.

[GregR]

My work has made a half hearted attempt at clearing the carpark and today they have stuck up a sign to say that you use the carpark at your own risk. Legality wise I don't think the notice is worth the paper it's printed on and they can't simply absolve all responsibilty to the staff. I work for Nokia-Siemens as a contract staff member, the site is operated and maintained by Johnsons Controls and owned by Orange It's Johnson Controls who have posted the notice.

Rather than say you don't think it absolves them of blame, how do you consider they're at fault?

[mac]

I read an article about who's duty it is to clear the pavement etc outside of your house as it's a legal requirement in some countries and states in the US. Apparently, in the UK, if you don't clear the ice correctly you could sured (eg someone trips on or over the ice your've moved from your path) can't remember the legal term, some for of tort I think (even though I thought that was a kind of cake!)

I know I posted a comment on Facebook regarding road fund license and non gritted roads but that was more to do with paying money to central government to use the roads when they are actually maintained by local government.


Mac

[DDtB]

I don't think it's actually a road fund license / road tax anymore.

It's a vehicle excise duty now.... so there's no correlation between the amount the government get from it and the amount they spend on the road... so they can increase the VED, reduce road spending and dodge complaints etc...

Just another way of them fcuk everything up again.

[GregR]

I read an article about who's duty it is to clear the pavement etc outside of your house as it's a legal requirement in some countries and states in the US. Apparently, in the UK, if you don't clear the ice correctly you could sured (eg someone trips on or over the ice your've moved from your path) can't remember the legal term, some for of tort I think (even though I thought that was a kind of cake!)
Mac

Tort = english and basically a blanket term for different species of wrong. In scotland, the term is 'delict' and ergo a delictual wrong.

[meatball]

Schoolgirl slipped on ice and died the other day.....

[S111Y TT]

Pot hole? That thing was a crater, or a tunnel to the centre of the earth!

It is deeper than the necessary 6cm, so if damage has been done then a claim against the council should hold up, when I took the photo I also took one with my hand against the back wall to show it's depth.