has Bahar left Lotus

Post by **campbell** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:32 pm

H8OAG wrote:
robin wrote:Did people that put down deposits enter into contracts?

If you have signed a new car order form you have effectively entered into a legally binding contract to purchase a car

If you cancel , the dealer may keep the deposit as they are left with a car that was specc'd to your requirements
Not only is the dealer entitled to retain the deposit, he is also entitled to sue you for breach of contract and the balance of the sale value.

A simple phone call to the dealer may get a sympathetic ear as in the instance of the new model,they will not meet the delivery dates as their is no indication that the build is starting any time soon

If the contract includes an obligation by the dealer to supply an item in a given (or perhaps "reasonable"?) timescale, which the dealer can no longer meet, then presumably they can be held in breach by the purchaser too? (Shades of Mercantile Law lectures drifting back...but it WAS a long time ago!)

Mikem7709 · Post by **Mikem7709** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:24 am

Technically all that can be retained from the deposit are reasonable costs incurred by the dealer. As the dealer holds the deposit in full and Lotus haven't built/delivered anything that shouldn't amount to a lot.

Lazydonkey · Post by **Lazydonkey** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:05 am

Story on BBC news that Lopez is looking over the books.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-17714223

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j2 lot · Post by **j2 lot** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:36 pm

Post by **pete** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:05 pm

campbell wrote:
H8OAG wrote:
robin wrote:Did people that put down deposits enter into contracts?

If you have signed a new car order form you have effectively entered into a legally binding contract to purchase a car

If you cancel , the dealer may keep the deposit as they are left with a car that was specc'd to your requirements
Not only is the dealer entitled to retain the deposit, he is also entitled to sue you for breach of contract and the balance of the sale value.

A simple phone call to the dealer may get a sympathetic ear as in the instance of the new model,they will not meet the delivery dates as their is no indication that the build is starting any time soon

If the contract includes an obligation by the dealer to supply an item in a given (or perhaps "reasonable"?) timescale, which the dealer can no longer meet, then presumably they can be held in breach by the purchaser too? (Shades of Mercantile Law lectures drifting back...but it WAS a long time ago!)

I'm with Campbell. There is a reasonable timescale (Scottish common law - poss Sale and suuply goods ands services) within which the contract must be honoured.
Or to put it another way there are 2 sides to a contract...

neil · Post by **neil** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:43 pm

Dany's back from his trip - interview with CAR here

neil · Post by **neil** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:51 pm

Going by the interview there's a "surprise" due at Goodwood. Possibly the Esprit...

Post by **C7Steve** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:45 pm

Good find Neil. Interesting read

boynerT72 · Post by **boynerT72** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:39 pm

Still doesn't mention anything about when the new Exige will get built!! Sooooo frustrating..

Scotty C · Post by **Scotty C** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:20 pm

boynerT72 wrote:Still doesn't mention anything about when the new Exige will get built!! Sooooo frustrating..

Quote from lotus cars Facebook page.

FINAL TESTING OF THE EXIGE S IN HETHEL: Jan Hoel asked the question where the improved laptime - 5 seconds faster than the old Exige Cup 260 - comes from:
More power
More torque
Better power/torque to weight ratio
Higher lateral acceleration
Courtesy of suspension improvements and new Pirelli tyres
Better braking – courtesy of Pirelli tyres and new brake system
New race mode which optimises traction

foz01 · Post by **foz01** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:11 am

Scotty C wrote:
boynerT72 wrote:Still doesn't mention anything about when the new Exige will get built!! Sooooo frustrating..
Quote from lotus cars Facebook page.

FINAL TESTING OF THE EXIGE S IN HETHEL: Jan Hoel asked the question where the improved laptime - 5 seconds faster than the old Exige Cup 260 - comes from:
More power
More torque
Better power/torque to weight ratio
Higher lateral acceleration
Courtesy of suspension improvements and new Pirelli tyres
Better braking – courtesy of Pirelli tyres and new brake system
New race mode which optimises traction

They seem to have missed the
More weight

boynerT72 · Post by **boynerT72** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:26 am

Sounds brilliant, but they still haven't said anything about when they are getting built... No production schedule or anything so punters are still waiting blindly for something concrete to stop them cancelling orders!

Scotty C · Post by **Scotty C** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:43 am

Im sure its because they dont know.

Be worth the wait im sure, and by the time you get it you would have saved up some extra money for some spare tyres

boynerT72 · Post by **boynerT72** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:52 am

Get it in time to stick it away for the winter and not be used for 6 months..

As you can tell I ain't overly chuffed with the situation!

Scotty C · Post by **Scotty C** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:31 am

2012 or 2013

Scottish Elises