Europa- "most disappointing Lotus I have driven in 10 y

Post by **simon** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:04 pm

Edit: That should say years above but it doesn't fit!

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/articl ... 34,00.html

Lotus Europa S
By Andrew Frankel
Crashing head-on into an identity crisis

If you polled the public to discover Britainâ€™s most revered marque, the chances are that Aston Martin, Rolls-Royce or Bentley would win. But if you polled the engineers who make such cars Iâ€™d bet a wedge of cash none of these would top the table. As Gordon Murray, designer of grand prix cars and the McLaren F1, once said to me: â€œCut me and Iâ€™d bleed Lotus.â€

Post by ed » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:13 pm

doesnt look like its going to compete very well in the market that its aimed at. Its guaranteed to be a hit with some but perhaps they should change tack and get the s3 Elise/exige into production!

GregR · Post by **GregR** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:27 pm

I think its time to step away from the chasis that was designed over a decade ago and move forward ...

Scottd · Post by **Scottd** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:37 pm

Ouch

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:41 pm

ed wrote: doesnt look like its going to compete very well in the market that its aimed at. Its guaranteed to be a hit with some but perhaps they should change tack and get the s3 Elise/exige into production!

why do you want an S3?? you want an S1 honda exige

Post by ed » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:45 pm

more then ever before! need to make sure i get the alacantra(sp?) seats though if my performance yesterday is anything to go by. Sweaty betty doesnt come close!

GregR · Post by **GregR** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:46 pm

ed wrote: more then ever before! need to make sure i get the alacantra(sp?) seats though if my performance yesterday is anything to go by. Sweaty betty doesnt come close!

Was she the lady on the Weedgie drinks night?

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:57 pm

yes, and you really didnt need to hug me afterwards you sweaty barsteward.

were you sweating with excitement, or fear, or just due to lack of aircon??

Post by ed » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:00 pm

yeah sorry about that!

definently a mix of all of the above

Lazydonkey · Post by **Lazydonkey** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:13 pm

Sounds like its the same standard map as the VXT

Review of a TMS remap on a standard VXT
http://www.vx220.org.uk/forums/index.ph ... 939&hl=tms

Lawrence · Post by **Lawrence** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:59 pm

I agree with most of what he said.

It's gotta be dissapointing after an Exige S

I agree it's quieter
I agree it's easier to get in and out
I agree it looks different, he'd have complained if it wasn't
I agree it's a turbo and I have 3 turbos currently and know how to drive them

and I agree it's not raw enough, so just what I want

and I wouldn't be seen dead in a Boxster

pity for Lotus that there's only one of me, maybe just as well tho'

Scottd · Post by **Scottd** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:31 pm

I've got a feeling that writer may have slagged off the Elises/Exiges when they came out too, despite him saying they were 'better'. Yea 'better' in the ways we already knew. It's a different knd of car.
Lotus want to give the Boxter buyers another option, and I think they just might have done it!

dezzy · Post by **dezzy** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:11 pm

I would *never* buy a boxster. I'd definitely go for the Europa if that was the kind of car I was after.

Car reviews are like music reviews to me . . . I wouldn't let a bad review of my favourite band's new album stop me buying it, so I wouldn't let a bad review of a car stop me either! I'd go find out for myself!

Post by ed » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:35 pm

Yet another hammering!

clicky

-not that their opinion counts for much.......