The 'new' ceramic subs are silly money. If you want to buy new then you price yourself out of the market, but a pre- loved one can be had without box/papers for £2.7k ish, with those with full b&p for at least £3.3k.
I'm no Speedy expert but it seems they take a depreciation hit. For example the Apollo Soyuz special edition with real meteorite dial was circa £6k new and theres a minty one up for sale on tz-uk for £3850. £3750 gets you a 1957 50th Anni version with all the gear.
At the other end of the spectrum, full b&p, 2006 model 3570.50 is up for £1450. Gareth let a similar one go for circa £800

. New I think they're £2,880.
Forums -check tz-uk.com. Websites to get a feel for prices are blowers, watches.co.uk, etc.
If you want new, drop me a pm and I might be able to get you a deal from somewhere you've been already
Happy hunting
