Views on Independence.

[campbell]

The worrying thing is how bored I've become with the whole sorry affair.

Is there a third way?

Could we vote to become part of the United States of America?!

Back to reality, can anyone outline the ramifications of finding oneself a net export business as a result of a Yes vote?

[robin]

Assuming Scotland remains part of the European economic area and so does ruk then none.

If either or both leave then if you were exporting product your customer might be subject to import duty. As you are exporting services I suspect you escape that though you may find ruk hmrc taking an interest in your income. Probably not, though.

[Noops]

England has been loosing grip on its Empire before and since WW1/ WW2 and now Scotland is next in line to express its way farward .
No wonder they want to keep hold of us. After the ww2 the big one.. there was a chance for change to make things better, fairer etc ? it just seems to have never made regardless of who has been in power. As far as I can see we have had the same boom/bust, up ,down since the 1930's althought times have changed the politics are just the same.

Sorry I don't want to be ruled by down south anymore, it hasn't worked and isn't working for ME??, I want a different future and am prepared to take the hit for my lads and my granddaughters future.

These are interesting times ahead how it will pan out gawd knows

[tut]

I wonder what the currency would be now that they could no longer use the £?

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[campbell]

I propose the Drogna

[Corranga]

I wonder what the currency would be now that they could no longer use the £?

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..but I thought that iScotland would retain the pound, the white paper stated? You mean the white paper is just a wish list, it's not actual fact? Politicians lie to us? What? :O

The whole thing is laughable.

I've seen the i campaign take every opportunity to demonstrate that voting for iScotland is being Scottish, the Braveheart approach if you will.
They have included 16 / 17 year olds who on the whole, don't have a clue to up votes.
They even managed to get it named the 'Yes' vote - something that shouldn't happen in non biased politics - a nice one for all you folk who think the media bias is unfair.
If it were a company, I'd appreciate their sales tactics, and have some respect. It isn't.
I've watched Shrek Salmond hide the Saltire in his bag until Murray wins - supporting a Scot after the fact.

iScotland talk about it being better as a small country, yet we'll most probably remain part of the EU.

As for the rUK campaign (or lack of?) essentially, you're asking for money devoted to running the UK to be wasted opposing something that is nothing short of a farce, simply to prove that things will be the same. Why should rUK offer Scotland more, it's like blackmail - we're leaving, so give us more and maybe we'll stay..

This whole thing is getting boring, has no guarantees, is lead by liers (on both sides), is wasting money that could easily be used to help people, and is playing on the heart strings of a country that is full of people who are more proud than many others.
It's segregating our country into 2 distinct categories, as this thread clearly states. It will leave as many unhappy people as the last general UK election.
This is not the best thing for Scotland.

Chris

[tut]

I wonder what the currency would be now that they could no longer use the £?

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..but I thought that iScotland would retain the pound, the white paper stated? You mean the white paper is just a wish list, it's not actual fact? Politicians lie to us? What? :OChris

The Government announced yesterday that no matter what the result of the General Election was, all Parties have agreed that even if there is a Coalition again, a devoluted Scotland would not be allowed to keep the pound.

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[Rosssco]

I wonder what the currency would be now that they could no longer use the £?

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..but I thought that iScotland would retain the pound, the white paper stated? You mean the white paper is just a wish list, it's not actual fact? Politicians lie to us? What? :OChris

The Government announced yesterday that no matter what the result of the General Election was, all Parties have agreed that even if there is a Coalition again, a devoluted Scotland would not be allowed to keep the pound.

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Sorry to be a pedant, but not so much keep the Pound (as the Nationalist keep saying, there's nothing the rUK gov could do to stop Scotland using it), its just it wouldn't really make sense as the rUK wouldn't agree to a currency union, which is within the powers of the rUK government, and frankly makes no sense due to risks.

[tut]

I do not have enough information to take this further, but would be interested to know what it really means, if we are not keeping the British Pound then what would Scotland replace it with? I was just about to put up a new post, but this would cover it.

As far as I know myself and Verian would be the only ones on here that would be affected by one scenario. My War Pension is paid from England as is Verian's State Pension, but I could then be faced with that having to be converted into Scottish Monopoly money. Every time money was converted it would be at a loss as it is now every time that you leave the Country. The same would occur every time we crossed the Border from Scotland, and likewise to anybody coming North. Doubt if that would improve our tourist Industry.

I may have got it all wrong, but would be quite happy to be corrected.

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[Corranga]

Certainly looks like there are only 2 options, GBP with a financial hit or Euro, with a financial hit and a LOT of inconvenience.

From the beginning the i campaign has always appeared as the money grabbing wife that's taking all the good bits, and handing back to bad to rUK, looks like rUK has finally started to lawyer up and take that skank to the bank




I really need to go have some breakfast...

[tut]

Just spelt out by Osborne in his speech this morning.

"If Scotland walks away from the UK then it walks away from the UK pound"

SNP are playing it down, I reckon it has taken them completely by surprise, so they are coming out with waffle.

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[Sanjøy]

Mods, thoughts on renaming this thread and having it as our one thread for independence chat?

[j2 lot]

My point all along has been that SNP didnt negotiate anything so it was always only a wish list
Instead they printed what they would like to happen and crossed their fingers that all other parties would (bend over) and agree.
Not the best position from which to start negotiations.

[tut]

Renamed the main title.

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[GraemeLotus]

My point all along has been that SNP didnt negotiate anything so it was always only a wish list
Instead they printed what they would like to happen and crossed their fingers that all other parties would (bend over) and agree.
Not the best position from which to start negotiations.

Read a hilarious article from the yes brigade stating that Scotland could keep using the pound without London approval, citing the example of El Salvador and Panama using the US Dollar (!); failing to comprehend that the bits of paper you use (50% of which up there have "Scotland" on them) are one thing, the bank underwriting them something else. If you take this to the Nth degree, Scots could be using sheep droppings and chicken heads for currency come January..