Brexit.

[campbell]

I don't think Tut was calling end of days. Just airing a frustration at the current mess? Things will settle, for sure. Still popcorn time.

[greyrigg]

https://vimeo.com/85914510

All explained now.

Malcolm


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[PhilA]

What do you mean by "hosted" and what are you looking to achieve!

hosted was probably my web head on xD

i mean, have money in a bank that wouldnt be divided onto the indy scot side, but stand with BoE side.
dont want hard earned money in the bank to go down in value coz of potential heart over head voting

[campbell]

I do some business banking with Metro Bank. They've been pretty good.

However I'm not entirely clear how money in the bank would go down in value. Other than by inflationary pressures. Unless we are abandoning Sterling in a hurry? And if it's value you are concerned about, it's not another bank you want as such, but some foreign exchange currency hedging, or a suitable investment vehicle like a stocks & shares ISA (but take professional advice on how & where the funds are investeded and managed).

[johncam]

What do you mean by "hosted" and what are you looking to achieve!

hosted was probably my web head on xD

i mean, have money in a bank that wouldnt be divided onto the indy scot side, but stand with BoE side.
dont want hard earned money in the bank to go down in value coz of potential heart over head voting

Hi Phil,
About April 2014 I closed all our Halifax / BOS accounts and shifted everything to the Nationwide. Despite my branch being in Buchanan Street in Glasgow, the Sort Code is a London one. I double checked the week before the vote and they were clear that if it was a Yes vote my money would have been safely in England and would not have been subject to restrictions that would have likely been put in place on September the 19th to prevent capital flight or a run on Scottish banks etc. I would highly recommend Nationwide regardless. I do know that all the banks with branches in Carlisle had no available appointments in the months running up to the referendum presumably due to Scots looking to achieve the same as I was.

Cheers,

John

[David]

One theory on what will happen

From the guardians comments section:

If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.

Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.

With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.

How?

Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.

And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.

The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.

The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?

Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?

Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.

If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.

The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.

When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.

All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.

Looks like it's going this way . . .

[campbell]

Typical pish from the Guardian, the out of touch Islington lefties that have ruined the Labour Party and are largely to blame for the sorry mess we find ourselves in.


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Fascinating reaction, Malcolm. I always had you down as cool calm and collected! And yet, when I read the Guardian snippet which David published, it got me thinking...

Funny thing now is, who'll be brave enough to affirm that the BrexyRef vote was merely advisory and not binding? There will surely be riots then? Martial Law? Army on the streets?

I always felt it could get bumpy. But that could have me looking at a move abroad. Eek.

[greyrigg]

Cool as a cucumber old boy.

The train load of eu fudge has left the station and is heading our way.

Malcolm


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[thinfourth]

Typical pish from the Guardian, the out of touch Islington lefties that have ruined the Labour Party and are largely to blame for the sorry mess we find ourselves in.


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Fascinating reaction, Malcolm. I always had you down as cool calm and collected! And yet, when I read the Guardian snippet which David published, it got me thinking...

Funny thing now is, who'll be brave enough to affirm that the BrexyRef vote was merely advisory and not binding? There will surely be riots then? Martial Law? Army on the streets?

I always felt it could get bumpy. But that could have me looking at a move abroad. Eek.

I really hope the tory party ignore the referendum result

Mainly because it will be hugely funny to see the SNP banging on about it being a trigger for indyref2

Which they will

[campbell]

Lay off the SNP baiting for a bit, maybe?

[Scuffers]

Mark Carney need to be sacked!

Stupid C**T makes the most dumb-arsed speech, then instanting the £ dumps against the $.

[Fluoxetine]

Lay off the SNP baiting for a bit, maybe?

No chance - It's thinfourth's raison d'être

[Scuffers]

SNP - Still No Plan

[campbell]

Linky for speech, Simon?

[Scuffers]

Linky for speech, Simon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmR5U-GzoFk