Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

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Have you changed your mind on Scottish independence?

No, I'll still vote no
61
71%
No, I'll still vote yes
7
8%
Yes, I'll now vote no
10
12%
Yes, I'll now vote yes
5
6%
This poll is poorly worded and is too confusing for me
3
3%
 
Total votes: 86

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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by thinfourth » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:14 pm

Corranga wrote: One thing is for sure, the country is going to be talking politics for a good while longer!
Whats the nicest dictatorship to live in

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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by thinfourth » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:17 pm

BiggestNizzy wrote:
campbell wrote:I like May for her candour. And bravery.
Trolling surely? May is the master of not answering a question, nothing brave about calling an election when your 20+ points clear in the poles.

Meanwhile in scotland we have the SNP who love answering any and all questions with "We need independence to escape this english hard tory >insert issue here<"
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Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by campbell » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:26 pm

BiggestNizzy wrote:
campbell wrote:I like May for her candour. And bravery.
Trolling surely? May is the master of not answering a question, nothing brave about calling an election when your 20+ points clear in the poles.
Nope. I don't troll. I meant it. People are welcome to disagree. Last I heard that was democracy.

And there's an election coming.
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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by r10crw » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:41 am

I agree 100%, doesnt matter if she is ahead in the polls, its a brave thing to do. She has been slated for not being an elected PM, she has been slated for divisive politics.

This will hopefully bring the "country" together, hopefully silence and perhaps spell the end for Sturgeon and allow May some clear air to make the Brexit work. Whether right or wrong decisions are made, I prefer one person (Maybe a dictator) making the decisions and not being influenced by the attacking other sides who feel they have a voice.

Again just my opinion.
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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by c8rkh » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:28 am

Rosssco wrote: I couldn't see Sturgeon calling a snap election to essentially ratify her Indyref2 ambitions as she knows she'd probably loose MSP's and her voting majority.
What voting majority? She does not have a majority in Westminster, yet alone her own Parliament in Holyrood. That's why she needed the Green's to bolster her call for Indyref2. So, despite not having a majority government she continues to insist she speaks and lead for all in Scotland. What total garbage. She will not call a snap election as she knows she has a very high chance of losing, which is why she is constantly sniping from the sides trying to make mischief and generate noise. She really is an irrelevance on anything but a local stage right now, the problem is her ego just does not allow her to see it and it is time she focused on what she was elected to do which is to lead Scotland in the devolved government, NOT to play on the world stage. She is AWOL in the day job, is that why the Scottish Parliament has not passed a bill in how long, 12 months now? That is an appalling dereliction of duty and no way to make Scotland a better place. We are stalled and nose diving into oblivion and she is the Captain at the yoke!
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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by Rosssco » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:35 am

c8rkh wrote:
Rosssco wrote: I couldn't see Sturgeon calling a snap election to essentially ratify her Indyref2 ambitions as she knows she'd probably loose MSP's and her voting majority.
What voting majority?
Note I said "voting majority" not party majority :wink: The Greens are essentially just the environmental wing of the SNP when it comes to voting on constitutional matters, so long as they keep dangling the 'Green Carrot' of things like the fracking ban and further renewables push.
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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by thinfourth » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:49 am

Since May was elected the SNP have saying she has no mandate to govern as she was never elected.

Which was slightly hypocritical as Sturgeon was not elected for the first year of being first minister


Now that May has called for an election so she can get the mandate the SNP have been gurning about.

The SNP are boycotting the vote to start the election.


Which I thought they were going to do.

The SNP are not pro Scotland they are purely anti the UK
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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by BiggestNizzy » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:42 pm

r10crw wrote:I agree 100%, doesnt matter if she is ahead in the polls, its a brave thing to do. She has been slated for not being an elected PM, she has been slated for divisive politics.

This will hopefully bring the "country" together, hopefully silence and perhaps spell the end for Sturgeon and allow May some clear air to make the Brexit work. Whether right or wrong decisions are made, I prefer one person (Maybe a dictator) making the decisions and not being influenced by the attacking other sides who feel they have a voice.

Again just my opinion.
Wow, wanting to silence opposition and anyone who disagrees with a May Brexit, I am off to look at jobs in Turkey. They are a lot more progressive and more tolerant of the opposition.

To all those who dislike Nicola Sturgeon, you have made your point we all know you dislike her and her policies but don't turn it round to her to avoid answering questions on the UK government. This is what we will be stuck with for the next 5 years it's a cynical ploy to take advantage of Labour coupled with a hope that we will have worked through the clusterf*ck that is coming for the next election it's a power grab that is already being spun by the Tory side as a way to keep the Hard-line in check so that the nice Tories can be in charge!
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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by c8rkh » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:15 pm

Of course it's a cynical ploy @BiggestNizzy, when was it never not when a party, any party, senses weakness in the opposition and so strikes! Come on, hardly new news here now is it?

And as for turning it around to avoid answering - I think you should go through many of your posts on here as that is EXACTLY what you have frequently done, and is a daily used tactic of the SNP (Sturgeon, Robertson, Salmond et al). They NEVER answer questions sensibly as is it is always "Westminsters fault" or "Brexit's fault" these days. It's like a bloody broken record and yet still we have no policies or bills passed in Scotland for how long? 12 months? Longer.......? Yes I dislike Sturgeon but I do find those putting forward the SNP view hate to be put on the spot or asked to quantify, justify anything with anything like a hard fact. As was pointed out before, the sheer hypocrisy of Sturgeon saying May doesnot have a mandate as not elected but it was Ok when she got on her throne first in the same way? Can't you see it?

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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by r10crw » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:38 pm

BiggestNizzy wrote:
r10crw wrote:I agree 100%, doesnt matter if she is ahead in the polls, its a brave thing to do. She has been slated for not being an elected PM, she has been slated for divisive politics.

This will hopefully bring the "country" together, hopefully silence and perhaps spell the end for Sturgeon and allow May some clear air to make the Brexit work. Whether right or wrong decisions are made, I prefer one person (Maybe a dictator) making the decisions and not being influenced by the attacking other sides who feel they have a voice.

Again just my opinion.
Wow, wanting to silence opposition and anyone who disagrees with a May Brexit, I am off to look at jobs in Turkey. They are a lot more progressive and more tolerant of the opposition.
No, you misunderstand me, this is not about May. Whenever I see business decisions being made, more cooks who know better (And they may know better) spoil the broth, simple. Often I dont like who makes the decisions at work but I know they need support internally when dealing with outside sister offices. For Brexit we are dealing with our future and unless one person at the top has the support and backing internally (ie within our UK outwith party politics) we will all come out worse. From what I see every party has their own agenda and are generally not interested in the country only how they can miscall those in charge to get in themselves, and whether its your party or mine "we" will suffer.
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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by thinfourth » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:13 pm

BiggestNizzy wrote: To all those who dislike Nicola Sturgeon, you have made your point we all know you dislike her and her policies but don't turn it round to her to avoid answering questions on the UK government. This is what we will be stuck with for the next 5 years it's a cynical ploy to take advantage of Labour coupled with a hope that we will have worked through the clusterf*ck that is coming for the next election it's a power grab that is already being spun by the Tory side as a way to keep the Hard-line in check so that the nice Tories can be in charge!
You are appearing to make the mistake that my utter hatred and distain for the SNP and its single policy of "we hate the english/westminster/tory party" as a glowing reference for the UK government

NOPE

I regard the SNP as hopeless idiots and Holyrood as an idiot fest stuffed to the rafters with morons who i wouldn't trust to run a bath

i also regard westminster as an idiot fest stuffed to the rafters with morons who i wouldn't trust to run a bath

However

While the idiots in westminster have the issue of leaving the EU to deal with which i expect them to cock up.

The idiots in holyrood want to plunge us deeply into the sh*t by having the issues of leaving the EU, leaving the UK, Having no currency, having no central bank all while setting up a country and trying to negotiate a good deal with a country they have been labelling as a xenophobic right wing rape enabling foreign occupying enemy.


I vote tory not because i think they are great but because i think they are the least likely to completely cock everything up.
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Post by campbell » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:32 pm

Who labelled Westminster "rape-enabling"?
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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by thinfourth » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:42 pm

Some of the less gifted SNP supporters
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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by campbell » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:23 pm

Hm. Well I'll take your word for it. Just note that rape refs are off limits here.

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Re: Has anybody changed their vote about independence??

Post by kenny » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:33 pm

campbell wrote:Hm. Well I'll take your word for it. Just note that rape refs are off limits here.

Cheers
Better tell the SNP then.

http://thenational.scot/news/15226092.W ... he_Tories/

edit to add. the atrocious and spiteful piece above is one of the better SNP articles, some of the braveheart rent-a-mob social media posts about Ruth Davidson were... colourful.

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