Porker lovers
- Lazydonkey
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I wasn't on Dave's car. I thought it was awesome.
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Re: Porker lovers
I wasn't referring to you MartinLazydonkey wrote:I wasn't on Dave's car. I thought it was awesome.

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I knowrossybee wrote:I wasn't referring to you MartinLazydonkey wrote:I wasn't on Dave's car. I thought it was awesome.

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Focus ST estate, i3s and more pushbikes than strictly necessary.
....did i ever tell you about the Evora and VX220 i used to own?
....did i ever tell you about the Evora and VX220 i used to own?
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Last edited by Lazydonkey on Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Focus ST estate, i3s and more pushbikes than strictly necessary.
....did i ever tell you about the Evora and VX220 i used to own?
....did i ever tell you about the Evora and VX220 i used to own?
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Which is exactly as I would also expect, hence my ramble on the previous page 

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Re: Porker lovers
It doesnt try to kill you as often is maybe a better way to put it? 

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Re: Porker lovers
All this stuff about the 4S being a supreme day to day car, lovely place to sit, practical, quick, refined etc etc.....a C2S does all of this too, believe it or not. And it also handles and steers better into the bargain. Not by massive margins, but better all the same. It's not some edgy track weapon reserved solely for driving Gods....any idiot (ie me!) can hop in and drive a C2S quickly.
And with a set of eBay wheels and michelin winter boots it would also out perform a 4S in wintry weather.
As I've said repeatedly, I love all things Porsche and that includes the C4S. Great car. But the only possible justification I can see for buying one over a 2S is personal preference of the wide body styling, which is fine.
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And with a set of eBay wheels and michelin winter boots it would also out perform a 4S in wintry weather.
As I've said repeatedly, I love all things Porsche and that includes the C4S. Great car. But the only possible justification I can see for buying one over a 2S is personal preference of the wide body styling, which is fine.
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Re: Porker lovers
Yes I did,
We were on a run and swapped cars to see how different they were
The cars are very similar to sit in so I drove at the pace I was doing straight away
And the c4s understeered a lot more than I expected
Its a true story Ross
Cheers
We were on a run and swapped cars to see how different they were
The cars are very similar to sit in so I drove at the pace I was doing straight away
And the c4s understeered a lot more than I expected
Its a true story Ross
Cheers

I don't know driving in another way which isn't risky. Each one has to improve himself. Each driver has its limit. My limit is a little bit further than other's.
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I'm an average driver and disagree with thisrossybee wrote:To reiterate some others' views on 2wd vs 4wd 996 porkers, the whole understeer thing is utter hogwash.
Not just Dave (or Gareth), but the majority of 996 owners won't feel the difference regardless of which wheels are driven in normal use, unless really pushing on, and in extreme conditions. The only caveat here is perhaps steering feel, but I can't see either being totally devoid of this either.
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I disagree as well.................having owned both, I am therefore greater than averageshooomer wrote:I'm an average driver and disagree with thisrossybee wrote:To reiterate some others' views on 2wd vs 4wd 996 porkers, the whole understeer thing is utter hogwash.
Not just Dave (or Gareth), but the majority of 996 owners won't feel the difference regardless of which wheels are driven in normal use, unless really pushing on, and in extreme conditions. The only caveat here is perhaps steering feel, but I can't see either being totally devoid of this either.

Most iterations of 4wd Porkers have understeer unless you whip them briskly into a corner
Less is more.........................exception being the GT3

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Re: Porker lovers
My old man had a C4S a few years ago (yellow calipers too that used to make alot of noise
) it would oversteer just fine 


alicrozier wrote:As Robin said, need to be comfortable and confident to push right up to the limit - sometimes you only find the limit by going beyond it...
(that's why I think Mike will do fine, that and his lack of imagination).![]()
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I am sure it didMike Scib wrote: it would oversteer just fine


I don't know driving in another way which isn't risky. Each one has to improve himself. Each driver has its limit. My limit is a little bit further than other's.
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Just drove another 4S......whoooooaaaa it just understeered or oversteered (not sure which, how do you tell?) going round Aberdeen's Haudigain roundabout.
Fear not peeps....I had enough skill to correct it.
Fear not peeps....I had enough skill to correct it.

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Must be quite snowy in Aberdeen so may be both
Hope you enjoyed the test drive and the car.

Hope you enjoyed the test drive and the car.

I don't know driving in another way which isn't risky. Each one has to improve himself. Each driver has its limit. My limit is a little bit further than other's.
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To all those who were worried sick...
I made it home safely without understeering off the road in a flaming ball of death.
Guess there will always be some peeps who don't get it.. but that's fine. If people think the only reason to choose a C4S over a C2 is the body.. fair enough. Not going to waste my time trying to educate folks who aren't actually interested in other points of view really. I look forward to meeting up with all the driving gods again when the decent weather returns to be educated about my wrong decision
As far as winter weather goes... quite topical today... my C4S on summer tires has been superb in the snow without the need for a set of ebay wheels and a second set of tires. Almost like another reason I chose it over a 2wd .. but don't let that get in the way of a good argument. I'm the guy that bought the understeery pig with a crap interior remember...
Just one small point to clarify things... in the 996 it's a C4S vs a C2. The C2S is a 997 ... but that's another argument for another day..
Whilst I remember though.. I can confirm Mass is genuinely able to find the limits of a car in the first corner !! ...I still have happy memories of going backwards into the tires as his pax when we left the pits and entered duffus one day in his Exige..
(sorry Mass.. you know I still luvs ya!!!)
Cheers!!
Dave.
I made it home safely without understeering off the road in a flaming ball of death.

Guess there will always be some peeps who don't get it.. but that's fine. If people think the only reason to choose a C4S over a C2 is the body.. fair enough. Not going to waste my time trying to educate folks who aren't actually interested in other points of view really. I look forward to meeting up with all the driving gods again when the decent weather returns to be educated about my wrong decision

As far as winter weather goes... quite topical today... my C4S on summer tires has been superb in the snow without the need for a set of ebay wheels and a second set of tires. Almost like another reason I chose it over a 2wd .. but don't let that get in the way of a good argument. I'm the guy that bought the understeery pig with a crap interior remember...

Just one small point to clarify things... in the 996 it's a C4S vs a C2. The C2S is a 997 ... but that's another argument for another day..

Whilst I remember though.. I can confirm Mass is genuinely able to find the limits of a car in the first corner !! ...I still have happy memories of going backwards into the tires as his pax when we left the pits and entered duffus one day in his Exige..

Cheers!!
Dave.