Parking ticket - the cheek!

robin · Post by **robin** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:49 pm

tuscan_thunder wrote:there are legal implications here:

The parking adjudicator is not a court of law I believe, but their decision is binding on both sides. They are appointed by the government. There is at least one case in England where the NCP had tampered with photos to stitch up some punter - not sure why - cannot be a business model worth pursuing - but the adjudicator was smart enough to know they had been tampered with when the punter had some evidence that conflicted with them.

In short, I think you'll get a fair hearing and the council's photos will be considered evidence but not it you can prove you were somewhere else.

TBH, it's kind of hard to imagine any systematic stitch ups - they would have to tour the area just before or after the lines were in force and then tamper with the date/time on their cameras, then issue the tickets, all outside of their normal working hours. Not all that likely I think and it would only take one contrary bit of evidence (e.g. CCTV footage of your car somewhere else at the alledged time, or a real clock somewhere else in the shot) for them to land in a whole heap of dog pooh.

Cheers,
Robin

Titanium S1 111S (gla) · Post by **Titanium S1 111S (gla)** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:52 pm

"My understanding is that they could enforce them through the courts but for the sake of £20 it's not worth the hassle,

In Englandshire it's a different story, with clamping being legal, etc.

The joys of the Scottish legal system!"

Am not saying that you are wrong, but what would legal basis would there be for the action?

I canâ€™t see them getting away with an argument that there is a contract with "the parkerâ€

GregR · Post by **GregR** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:58 pm

Greg sayeth - what graham said

RDH · Post by **RDH** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:00 pm

I can't remember - it was 1996/7 I studied "Obligations" at Glasgow Uni, taught by the campest man in the world! (Prof Joe Thomson - not Shug on a Friday night!)

You're the lawyer!

MacK · Post by **MacK** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:00 pm

MacK wrote: I've just recieved a letter saying I have a parking ticket to pay for, but I never got a ticket, there was not one on the car. I've phoned up to ask for the photo, but been told the camera was faulty!

Greg!

/Cough/

Titanium S1 111S (gla) · Post by **Titanium S1 111S (gla)** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:08 pm

â€œThe parking adjudicator is not a court of law I believe, but their decision is binding on both sides.â€

Titanium S1 111S (gla) · Post by **Titanium S1 111S (gla)** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:19 pm

""Obligations" at Glasgow Uni, taught by the campest man in the world! (Prof Joe Thomson - not Shug on a Friday night!) "

FYI heh as given up his tendencies and married an actual woman!

Joe not Shug (as far as I know)

RDH · Post by **RDH** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:23 pm

Titanium S1 111S (gla) wrote:""Obligations" at Glasgow Uni, taught by the campest man in the world! (Prof Joe Thomson - not Shug on a Friday night!) "

FYI heh as given up his tendencies and married an actual woman!

Joe not Shug (as far as I know)

Yeah - my dad's business partner was at the wedding! - that was a few years back tho!

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:53 pm

right, tickets says:

CIVIC PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE

notice no: TCO*******

Date: 22/9/06
Time: 11.37

First seen 11.32

Location: The regent centre linlithgow

Reason: parking outwith marked bays

Vehicle: Audi A6

RFL: 0716132471

Reg no: S891 ***

Colour: black/grey

Issuing official No: TEMP 1

Signature: he signed it

this vehicle was parked at the location stated at the specified time in breach of the terms and condtions advertised. a CIVIL PENALTY CHARGE of £40 is now due. If payment is recieved within 10 days the civil penalty charge will be reduced to £20.

Payment instruction

a cheque or postal order made payable to town and city parking Ltd, should be sent together with this parking notice to:

Town and city parking ltd
city house
70 glover street
perth
PH2 0JR

credit debit cards blah blah blah

APPEAL:

All appeals must be made in writing to the (then it goes blank and doesnt give an address)

Adjudications cannot be made over the telephone

IMPORTANT

threatening bit about how if its not paid in 10 days it double to 40 quid, if its not paid in 28 days it adds a 10 quid administration charge. Then they'll request details from the DVLA. Failure to pay will lead to civil legal action being taken to recover the penalty charge(together with any judicial expenses that may occur)

robin · Post by **robin** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:20 pm

[quote="Titanium S1 111S (gla)"]â€œThe parking adjudicator is not a court of law I believe, but their decision is binding on both sides.â€

GregR · Post by **GregR** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:33 pm

MacK wrote:
MacK wrote: I've just recieved a letter saying I have a parking ticket to pay for, but I never got a ticket, there was not one on the car. I've phoned up to ask for the photo, but been told the camera was faulty!

Greg!

/Cough/

now if that cough was asbestos related, I'm your man. However, graham has taken up the gauntlet on this one, and he's older (read more qualified) than me

Skyenet · Post by **Skyenet** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:09 am

A Parking Warden had passed away and his colleagues were in the process of burying them when they heard banging comming from the coffin. A voice from inside pleaded that he was not infact dead and could they let him out. To which they replied "Sorry mate, too late as we have already completed the paperwork"

Novice Racer · Post by **Novice Racer** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:28 am

GregR wrote:
MacK wrote:
MacK wrote: I've just recieved a letter saying I have a parking ticket to pay for, but I never got a ticket, there was not one on the car. I've phoned up to ask for the photo, but been told the camera was faulty!

Greg!

/Cough/
now if that cough was asbestos related, I'm your man. However, graham has taken up the gauntlet on this one, and he's older (read more qualified) than me

Actually, if that cough is asbestos related, I am your man. Early resection can be curative for mesothelioma, but if the cough receptors are being triggered, then it is probably invasive.

Novice Racer · Post by **Novice Racer** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:29 am

Just kidding