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loved that Ross - but bloody hell they are some amount of cash!
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Re: Porker lovers
Aye, high three hundreds to half a million dollars...which equates to roughly £250-330k 

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2004 Bentley Conti GT
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Re: Porker lovers
I have given some thoughts to why the C4S understeers more.
I reckon below are the main factors.
Geo :
Most production cars are understeer biased as most drivers naturally recognise and can correct it easily. Of course, too much built in understeers for experienced drivers is off putting as the car's true turn in potential is reduced significantly.
May be Porsche builds the 4WD targeting daily drivers who can use the car under all conditions safely and the C2 for more sporty drivers. Not sure if the same ARB are used for the c2 and c4/s.
Front diff :
The front diff set up might contribute to the understeer.
Tyre choice:
Pressures, the rim size, width, profile, compound and tread pattern also affect the handling.
Weight :
The C4S is significantly heavier than the C2. 1470kg vs 1320kg.
I have changed the brake pads to Ferodo DS2500 which is biting better than the OME. The Federal 9595 RS-R is much quieter than the Toyo R888 and on the wet road, gives better grip. On the dry a little less. I suspect the 595 will significantly out perform the R888 on the wet track, vice versa on dry surface (but may be not far off).
Look froward to see how it performs on the 30th at KH
I reckon below are the main factors.
Geo :
Most production cars are understeer biased as most drivers naturally recognise and can correct it easily. Of course, too much built in understeers for experienced drivers is off putting as the car's true turn in potential is reduced significantly.
May be Porsche builds the 4WD targeting daily drivers who can use the car under all conditions safely and the C2 for more sporty drivers. Not sure if the same ARB are used for the c2 and c4/s.
Front diff :
The front diff set up might contribute to the understeer.
Tyre choice:
Pressures, the rim size, width, profile, compound and tread pattern also affect the handling.
Weight :
The C4S is significantly heavier than the C2. 1470kg vs 1320kg.
I have changed the brake pads to Ferodo DS2500 which is biting better than the OME. The Federal 9595 RS-R is much quieter than the Toyo R888 and on the wet road, gives better grip. On the dry a little less. I suspect the 595 will significantly out perform the R888 on the wet track, vice versa on dry surface (but may be not far off).
Look froward to see how it performs on the 30th at KH


I don't know driving in another way which isn't risky. Each one has to improve himself. Each driver has its limit. My limit is a little bit further than other's.
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Re: Porker lovers
A drive in the C2 yesterday
See the magic tree for the G force
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FqgSfFR ... e=youtu.be
See the magic tree for the G force

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FqgSfFR ... e=youtu.be

I don't know driving in another way which isn't risky. Each one has to improve himself. Each driver has its limit. My limit is a little bit further than other's.
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Re: Porker lovers
You've got a bit of fishing wire tied to the magic tree, haven't you ?
For future videos remember Flat 6 Symphony sounds better than Freddie
Have you got any pictures of your car ? Yellow really suits the 911 I think, my 993 was yellow.
Regards,
Jeremy

For future videos remember Flat 6 Symphony sounds better than Freddie

Have you got any pictures of your car ? Yellow really suits the 911 I think, my 993 was yellow.
Regards,
Jeremy
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Sure, there is a photo of it on the first page of this thread.
I will post some more later.

I will post some more later.


I don't know driving in another way which isn't risky. Each one has to improve himself. Each driver has its limit. My limit is a little bit further than other's.
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Ah yes so there is !Modena Scotland wrote:Sure, there is a photo of it on the first page of this thread.
I will post some more later.

Regards,
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Opinons on this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-02-Porsc ... 540wt_1170
Considering getting back to a single car, and these 911's are definately on the radar..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-02-Porsc ... 540wt_1170
Considering getting back to a single car, and these 911's are definately on the radar..
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I don't know driving in another way which isn't risky. Each one has to improve himself. Each driver has its limit. My limit is a little bit further than other's.
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G - not quite a C4S but nice, relatively collectible, and therefore should suffer minimal depreciation?
And I'm not alone here for having had first hand experience of the excellent service supplied by this dealer
http://www.tvr-hhc.co.uk/UsedCars/view/497163
And I'm not alone here for having had first hand experience of the excellent service supplied by this dealer

http://www.tvr-hhc.co.uk/UsedCars/view/497163
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1972 Alfaholics Giulia Super
2000 Elise S1 Sport 160
2004 Bentley Conti GT
2017 Schkoda Yeti
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Now browsing the tech pages

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2000 Elise S1 Sport 160
2004 Bentley Conti GT
2017 Schkoda Yeti
2x Hairy GRs (not Toyota)
Now browsing the tech pages


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Picking up a Seal Grey 4S from London when I get backrossybee wrote:G - not quite a C4S but nice, relatively collectible, and therefore should suffer minimal depreciation?
And I'm not alone here for having had first hand experience of the excellent service supplied by this dealer![]()
http://www.tvr-hhc.co.uk/UsedCars/view/497163
Re: Porker lovers
From prison?
Ross
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1972 Alfaholics Giulia Super
2000 Elise S1 Sport 160
2004 Bentley Conti GT
2017 Schkoda Yeti
2x Hairy GRs (not Toyota)
Now browsing the tech pages

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1972 Alfaholics Giulia Super
2000 Elise S1 Sport 160
2004 Bentley Conti GT
2017 Schkoda Yeti
2x Hairy GRs (not Toyota)
Now browsing the tech pages


Re: Porker lovers
Agreed Tony at HHC was fantastically helpful in helping me get my Exige back north after it was ruined by Dan Juderossybee wrote: And I'm not alone here for having had first hand experience of the excellent service supplied by this dealer![]()
http://www.tvr-hhc.co.uk/UsedCars/view/497163

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Maybe this is why Dave/Gareth were wanting the C4S
http://www.carsite.co.uk/gallery/videos ... 1-tv-stand
Maybe a fan of the cinematic movies?
George
http://www.carsite.co.uk/gallery/videos ... 1-tv-stand
Maybe a fan of the cinematic movies?
George
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