What should Tom buy?

Gareth · Post by **Gareth** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:10 pm

This one:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/75063.htm

Gareth · Post by **Gareth** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:14 pm

Cambelt and all fluids and filters.
Cambelt is the bugger as it's awkward therfore puts up the labour costs

mac · Post by **mac** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:18 pm

Sorry - don't mean to be so heavy handed - I just tend to go off on one when these things are mentioned (ask Gareth)

You pays your monies and takes your choice. Just don't discredit cars because they are standard. It the right hands they are very potent, as Giles can readily demonstrate.

Mac

Gareth · Post by **Gareth** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:31 pm

mac wrote:Sorry - don't mean to be so heavy handed - I just tend to go off on one when these things are mentioned (ask Gareth)

You pays your monies and takes your choice. Just don't discredit cars because they are standard. It the right hands they are very potent, as Giles can readily demonstrate.

Mac

Yes, Gareth usually gets it in the jugular

Mac is right though, Giles's car is standard and he's quicker than me although not been on track with him since the 135R. Still think he will be quicker as he wiped the floor with me in my S1 with Nitrons.

mac · Post by **mac** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:37 pm

But I'm truly sorry for going off on one with Tom,

with you, Gareth, it's turn into a bit of a hobby

Mac

Gareth · Post by **Gareth** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:39 pm

mac · Post by **mac** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:43 pm

Kids!

The_Rossatron · Post by **The_Rossatron** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:57 pm

Also don't forget the S2 kicks out 120bhp a whole 2bhp more than the S1, and has the close ratio gearbox too.

Also don't forget that the later S1s weigh more than the early S1s.

Post by **Shug** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:06 pm

The_Rossatron wrote:Also don't forget the S2 kicks out 120bhp a whole 2bhp more than the S1, and has the close ratio gearbox too.

*cough* and they're a bit gay *cough*

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:13 pm

mac wrote:But I'm truly sorry for going off on one with Tom,

with you, Gareth, it's turn into a bit of a hobby

Mac

No probs, you didn't really go off on one, just made a good point.

I didn't mean anything by the weight thing, or the standard car thing. My problem is I don't really know what i'm talking about. There are so many different models/variations/upgrades it's all quite confusing

mac · Post by **mac** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:20 pm

There's an advantage to having few bhp. It make passing those with so much sweeter

Mac

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:30 pm

mac wrote:Tom - There is F-all wrong with the output of a standard S2, it's marginally heavier than the S1 (what are we talking 100kg max - and I don't think it is anywhere near that)

S2 - 820kg (for instance) @ 118bhp = 143.90 bhp/tonne

S1 - 720kg @ 118bhp = 163.88 bhp/tonne.

So 20 brake horsepower per tonne.

Factor in driver considerations, Shug driving a Std S2 against me driving a std S1

Shug = 820+80kg = 900kg @ 118 = 131.1111 bhp/tonne

Me = 720kg + 140 kg = 860kg @ 118 = 137.2 bhp/tonne.

That works out at 6bhp/tonne difference.

The S2 isn't a heavy car - and power isn't everything. All you need to do is compare the K powered cars against the Toyota powered ones at Brunty's last week.

Mac

your having a laugh right???? those calculations are dubious at best. A standard S2 is more like 50 kg heavier than a standard S1, and theres NO fcuk WAY your as light as 140kg

Anyway, lets stop this talk of cars for tom to buy, as we all know he'll have that polo till his free bus pass kicks in

The_Rossatron · Post by **The_Rossatron** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:34 pm

Shug wrote:
The_Rossatron wrote:Also don't forget the S2 kicks out 120bhp a whole 2bhp more than the S1, and has the close ratio gearbox too.
*cough* and they're a bit gay *cough*

mac · Post by **mac** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:09 pm

What is 140kg in old money anyway?

I just kinda though I weight 2/3's as much again as Shug, although I have heard folk say that I'm twice the man he'll ever be

As for the weight difference - I didn't think it was as much but it made the mafs a hole lot easier

Mac

Post by **Shug** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:12 pm

Dude, one of your tits weighs more than 140kg.....