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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by campbell » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:03 am

tut wrote:
Andy G wrote:oh, and tell me you have the roof off you big mincer :damnfunny
Then sell it for many hundreds.

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No, don't do that. Unless the car is a true toy, and you have a garage, the hardtop is a valuable addition through the winter months and makes commuting or long m-way stuff that little more palatable.

It also transforms the way the car looks from its usual beach buggy self, to almost a mini-GT, so unless you are cash-strapped - store the thing in a quality bag (the real thing from Lotus if you can get one) and enjoy the fact that you can choose :-)

It only takes fractionally longer than the soft top to fit as well :thumbsup

Oh and as for the car. The informed man's choice sir. The S1 Sport 135 is indeed the grandaddy and I have yet to hear "the experts" do it down. A true special edition with (nearly) all the right bits as available at the time. Looks like its riding a little lower so is it is also on LSS or the S2-for-S1 kit? That was the area I think they missed out on the original spec...the 135 demo they brought to KH when it was first launched did have LSS on IIRC, for some odd (or obvious!) reason. Good to have that sorted on your car, the rest you can just leave alone.

On K foibles and HGF worries...just drive the thing and accept that either you will need to put it off the road for a few days to fettle an HGF (if you get it screwed back together correctly you may even have less chance of another going forward!)...or take the preventive route like I did and change the head for something a little sweeter before it happens. The 135 head is good...but you can have better without tinkering with the cams or changing the overall "originality" of the car IMHO.

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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by DavieK » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:19 am

Aye nice choice :thumbsup

In the end when we were choosing ours I was kinda stuck between a 135 and a 160. In the end we plumped for a 160.

Hope you have a lot of good miles under your belt by the end of summer :mrgreen:
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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by Stewart » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:13 pm

Mike

Delighted that you have bought a 135 Sport. I still miss mine loads. It's just such an accomplished all rounder and I look forward to letting you past at Le Mans :D

I am with Campbell - keep the roof. Even if you never use it, it will help with re-sale, but of course you will never want to let it go :D

As for HGF, it would have gone by now and quite possibly has already and been repaired. Not too hard to check the coolant each time you are in the boot and the occasional dip of the oil. Even if the stack gives a dodgy reading it is more likely to be a sensor or bad earth. As said above, usually not the end of the world if it does go.

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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by smee » Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:08 pm

well done 135 is my favourite
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Post by campbell » Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:05 pm

That engine on SELOC sounds reasonable value.

Any way to beat that with a crated one? If such were still available?
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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by Mike Scib » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:01 am

Sorry for the late reply, been away all weekend :roll:

Hard top come off this evening and will be staying off :mrgreen: But i may keep it for the winter if i keep it that long :damnfunny

Well spotted Campbell noticing its on different suspension :shock:

Mods currently fitted are LEDA suspension which i have been told is not the best but it seems pretty dam good to me. Dan, JPS was also against them until he had a shot and was pleasantly surprised. Will hopefully find out soon enough on track! also have the standard Koni Red's. Blue Flame exhaust with standard Cat, but i also have a straight through Cat and a silenced Cat which i might fit? Carbonair induction kit again with standard air box and K&N. And finally Sparco harnesses :D

Couple more pics :mrgreen:

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Couple of questions now........

What tyre pressure should i be running a, on road b, on track?
I am wanting to get the Geo checked, what setting for road/track use? Should i get the upgraded toe links before this and before i track it? On Yoko Advan tyres LTS.
What brake pads are tried and tested? Have use Carbotechs XP8's on my last 2 cars and found them pretty impressive, like wise discs, ones fitted are drilled. Last year on FF7 i managed to crack a pair on the S2000 on the first day so not that keen on them TBH
What else do i need to be doing before FF8? Oil, filters?

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(that's why I think Mike will do fine, that and his lack of imagination). :roll: :lol:

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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by kenny » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:07 am

colour coded magic tree is ghey!

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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by DavieK » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:08 am

Wow! that looks a very clean and tidy car :thumbsup


if by a silanced cat do you meen a sports cat ? I'm sure I've read that K's work better with a bit of back pressure and because of that bypass pipes aren't that great but I'm willing to be told differently as i have no personal experiance of a decat.


Again very nice :)
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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by Mike Scib » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:09 am

kenny wrote:colour coded magic tree is ghey!
:lol: :lol: , came with the car, honest :oops:
alicrozier wrote:As Robin said, need to be comfortable and confident to push right up to the limit - sometimes you only find the limit by going beyond it...
(that's why I think Mike will do fine, that and his lack of imagination). :roll: :lol:

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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by campbell » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:56 am

scib4 wrote:Sorry for the late reply, been away all weekend :roll:

Hard top come off this evening and will be staying off :mrgreen: But i may keep it for the winter if i keep it that long :damnfunny

Well spotted Campbell noticing its on different suspension :shock:

Mods currently fitted are LEDA suspension which i have been told is not the best but it seems pretty dam good to me. Dan, JPS was also against them until he had a shot and was pleasantly surprised. Will hopefully find out soon enough on track! also have the standard Koni Red's. Blue Flame exhaust with standard Cat, but i also have a straight through Cat and a silenced Cat which i might fit? Carbonair induction kit again with standard air box and K&N. And finally Sparco harnesses :D
What I missed was the Blueflame exhaust. I've had one of these since 2001, fantastic piece of kit, finally needed a weld last year but provided the perfect under-load soundtrack yet whisper-quiet on steady throttle. Purrfect. Just watch the clearances, Blueflame tell me they gave up on my original version (perhaps yours is the small-can development?) because it was just too big!

I ran with a cat-replacement pipe for a while but became tired (literally) of the fumes that roll over the rear screen under deceleration, the CO does make you drowsy on long runs. Avoid IMHO. Little to be gained other than noise. Tell me more about this carbonair kit? Standard air box you say?

Couple of questions now........

What tyre pressure should i be running a, on road b, on track?
I am wanting to get the Geo checked, what setting for road/track use? Should i get the upgraded toe links before this and before i track it? On Yoko Advan tyres LTS.
What brake pads are tried and tested? Have use Carbotechs XP8's on my last 2 cars and found them pretty impressive, like wise discs, ones fitted are drilled. Last year on FF7 i managed to crack a pair on the S2000 on the first day so not that keen on them TBH
What else do i need to be doing before FF8? Oil, filters?

:cheers
Tyres...not sure if the 111S-style rims result in the same pressures, but road should be 23 and 27 (front - rear) approx for original Pirellis. After much experimentation I stuck with these figures also for my Toyo T1-S / T1-Rs. Much less for slicks though. On track, I think now actually you can *drop* the pressures if the tyres are made to work hard, as the heat obviously raised them and can make the car a bit slidey. At least I *think* that's what Robin was telling me at Donnie!

Geo straight from the manual will do you.

Leda was the only alternative to Konis for a short while in the early days of the S1, their reputation from other applications seemed good but everyone I knew that had them seemed to be getting them permanently rebuilt. I'd get a set of the S2-for-S1 Bilsteinds from Lotus or (for a choice of ride height...say 110 or 120mm for cosmetic purposes!), from Steve Butts. These are cracking dampers for the car and hold out fine for trackdays. If you have pots of cash, S2 LSS can be adpated for S1 but that setup is hard as nails. Well damped. But hard.

Now I should know if the 135 comes with drilled discs...in any case, whatever it's got, then my personal fave pad is Pagid RS4-2. For less money (almost half the price depending where you buy them) Mintex 1144 runs a reasonable 2nd and both pads work fine for general driving. But when you heat up the Pagids they are *brilliant* for spirited road runs and track days. Zero fade.

Before your big trip, I'd consider changing the oil, poss brake pads if low, and I'd certainly take a fresh set of pads with me. Also worth checking if your brake hoses are rubber or braided...the braided ones add a shade more feel and don't bulge when you stand on the brakes in track situations.

But otherwise, the Elise is ever-ready for hard action :thumbsup

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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by tut » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:12 am

Mike

If you are going to use R tyres on track you would be wise to fit the uprated toe links, mine snapped twice on N1 with the K engine, once on the road, before I upgraded, and several others have had them go as well.

Best ones at present are probably from Yvo.

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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by Shug » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:06 pm

I had Ledas for some time on mine - did the job admirably on track, but had far too much rebound for the road - they'd bind up over high frequency ripple bumps and go almost solid. That and they started to blow seals all the time. Still, better than the Konis and a very good track damper.

With Tut though, get the toe links done. Not cheap, but worth it, with the rough love you give your cars :thumbsup
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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by gambler » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:13 pm

Nice car Mike :thumbsup Look forward to seeing it at knockhill, sideways
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Re: New car at last! :)‏

Post by meatball » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:58 pm

Look forward to seeing you (and Lynda) taking it round KH!

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