Scottish Parliamentary Elections Sweepstake

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Post by Corranga » Thu May 05, 2016 10:36 am

mckeann wrote:It'll be at least 2 up on previous years. I always thought they were all as bad as each other so didn't bother voting, but now me and the missus will vote just to go against the snp. Probably the torys, although maybe a better chance with labour to try and stop snp. Decisions decisions.
This is the interesting thing, Scotland tends to vote Labour when it's not in an independence frenzy, but Labour are a complete shambles at the moment, so the Torys could sneak into 2nd I guess. For me, the win will be if Labour + Torys is greater than SNP percentage wise, which surely demonstrates a move away from indy2?

The Greens are as pro-independence as the SNP so might steal some votes from the Nats...

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Re: Scottish Parliamentary Elections Sweepstake

Post by chrisdb » Thu May 05, 2016 11:31 am

Labour are in a hole just now. To aptly steal a term from The Thick of It - they really are an omnishambles :roll: Dugdale is out of her depth and doesn't seem to grasp that her main fiscal policy - that involves increasing taxes for a lot of people - is not a great point to start from to rebuild support for her party.

Wee Nicky is credible, determined, sharp, appealing to the female vote and generally on a different level to the competition in Scotland. Doesn't mean I would vote for her but I understand why so many do. Before the referendum the 'Yes' message was about hope and change. After 'the vow' and subsequent broken promises and perception of being 'done over' the message seems to be about hope, change and resentment which could become very powerful if they pitch it correctly (i.e. in a Star Wars rebellion fashion!)

Apart from the blue colour palette, you'd be hard pressed to know that Davidson was a Conservative. They seem to be doing everything they can to make her the face/name/voice and distance the campaign from the UK Tories as much as possible. Not really a surprise when their main pitch is 'pick us to put up the best fight against the overwhelming SNP position' - somewhat at odds with UK (England) Tory position.

As a Scot living in England I find it fascinating observing the political landscape change in Scotland. I was back in East Lothian last weekend and at a farmers market in Haddington the main parties (and UKIP) all made an appearance. The SNP stand was swarming with folk and had a real buzz. The Tories had a fair amount of interest and looked like a well oiled machine. The incumbent Labour candidates stand was empty and they all looked miserable.

I don't follow it closely enough to predict % but I wouldn't be surprised if Tories roll Labour.

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Post by graeme » Thu May 05, 2016 11:50 am

Up here in NE Scotland the only party who could possibly beat SNP are Lib Dem, so I shall throw my vote away by voting Lib Dem.

I will still turn out to do it because it's important to stand up to be counted, even if the counting process is a bit wonky.
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Post by tut » Thu May 05, 2016 11:52 am

Surely they would be happy just with the thought that they have Jeremy to show them the way?

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Post by Dominic » Thu May 05, 2016 12:16 pm

It will be interesting to see what the turnout is like. There has been very little campaigning to be seen in Glasgow. None of the banners on lampposts etc. When I went to vote at 8.30 this morning, the place was deserted, other than the staff. I get the impression that a lot of people think that it's a fore gone conclusion so are not bothering.
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Post by Shug » Thu May 05, 2016 12:23 pm

Yeah - I think the likelihood of a terrible turnout is high.

With any luck, that might reward the protest voters and bolster the opposition slightly. Our current one-party state is a scary place...
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Post by mckeann » Thu May 05, 2016 12:51 pm

I only hope everyone who voted No turns out to vote against the SNP. Surely they know if SNP get back in we're heading for indy2

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Post by BiggestNizzy » Thu May 05, 2016 12:58 pm

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Post by tonyg » Thu May 05, 2016 1:05 pm

Is it too much to hope they will all get together in one big room and bulls**t each other to death ?
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Post by tut » Thu May 05, 2016 1:24 pm

Vote Labour and this is what you will get.

Surprised that she could even get through the doors to get in. She was not even embarrassed with her ignorance.

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Post by tut » Thu May 05, 2016 1:41 pm

Average of the Polls is SNP 50%, Lab 21%, Cons 19%.

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Post by pete » Thu May 05, 2016 1:43 pm

Surely this is a story about Tories being rude, one of whom is a tad heavy I grant you. (Although she's born very near to where I grew up, and we normally breed Labour in those parts, since the pits closed.)
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Post by pete » Thu May 05, 2016 1:45 pm

tut wrote:Average of the Polls is SNP 50%, Lab 21%, Cons 19%.

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So my numbers are right! - that's definitely within my self defined margin of error*.







*Margin of error only to be revealed once final results are known.
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Post by tut » Thu May 05, 2016 5:06 pm

Bollocks, screwed that up did I not?

Hunt is a Tory but I thought she was Labour. I apologise for calling her an ignorant Socialist as opposed to an ignorant Conservative.

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Post by pete » Thu May 05, 2016 7:09 pm

tut wrote:Bollocks, screwed that up did I not?

Hunt is a Tory but I thought she was Labour. I apologise for calling her an ignorant Socialist as opposed to an ignorant Conservative.

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You should just have changed it, there's no-one here but us ;)

Although there's not a huge number of socialists in the Labour Party, even now.
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