SE BHP wars

Post by **simon** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:43 pm

Going on a diet?

thinfourth · Post by **thinfourth** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:01 pm

mckeann wrote:i remember when we used to talk about light weight. Thats the route i'll be doing, rather than SC, if i do decide to spend any more money on my car.

I'm with lardarse on this one

light weight is the way to go

Don't forget an S2 exige is almost double the weight of a light 7

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:04 pm

i am. have lost 12kg, another 6kg to go.

then i'm going to rip out lots of bits from my car that i dont need. Then i will decide if i should spend any money on my car.

thinfourth · Post by **thinfourth** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:05 pm

Doughnut holder?

Does it stay or go?

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:07 pm

how do i think i lost 2 stone

Gareth · Post by **Gareth** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:11 pm

thinfourth wrote:Doughnut holder?

Does it stay or go?

See you can be funny when you try....

Sanjøy · Post by **Sanjøy** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:04 pm

From Mr Buttson on SELOC.

Battery can get you ~8kg depending on what you replace it with.

The door renforcement is 2.2kg. Locks and push buttons are 1kg a side. If you strip out the door, replace the glass with plastic windows, mill out the hinges, cut away the inner skin and replace the mirrors with some SPA ones and you can take the doors down to 6kg. I've left the locks in place so my doors are 7kg, down from ~20kg.

Seats, doors, battery, fuel tank are the best big savers.

tut · Post by **tut** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:50 pm

Neil

If you have not done so already, speak to Steve Butts. He has his S1 down to 615 kgs, with a 250hp K series.

Dont know if you spoke to Skeggsy at Donnie, but he is part way there also. Did you see Steve there, I gave him my wrist bands so that he could get out on track.

I agree with you regarding weight, one reason I have two of the earliest and lightest Elises, both with MMC brakes, but not sure if they would survive your right foot. Steve though still uses MMC's at the rear, they are half the weight and save 6kg, or 12kg all round in my case.

Still think that you should try Craigs or my car before you write off the S/C, as though I think that you are equal to, or faster than any other driver I have been on track with, you can not do anything about a more powerful car on a long straight.

On the other hand, if you are happy with your car as it is, then why change it.

Mine is a different situation, if it has not happened already, age will overtake ability, so I thought what the hell, lets go out in style............

tut

woody · Post by **woody** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:54 pm

Alloy hub carriers? lighter wheels?

Neil, is your K20 pretty much standard? I would have thought 300 Horses would have been do-able N/A with the traditional even mentaler cams/TB's etc... Probably cost a fair bit as the standard engine is so good?

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:00 pm

yep, mines is standard engine. You can get 300bhp from the NA, although it is more expensive than the SC.

Like i said, you can save a fair bit of weight just by getting rid of stuff. When it comes to spending money then theres 12kg to save on wheels, 12 kg to save on seats, 5 kg to save on fuel tank, i hope to save 18kg on driver. i reckon an NA honda could get down to 650kg.

I dont think MMC's will last, although it may be worth a try once i have cooling ducts installed. Want to lend me a set to find out tut

tut · Post by **tut** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:20 pm

Neil

After shredding one on Saturday, I need a couple of spares myself. I also have them on N1 TUT.

Watching some on eBay at the moment, but normally too many people after them. Got this set by chance on eBay when a breaker advertised a sidelight bulb for auction, but showed a picture of the car, and I could see that it had MMC's, so phoned him up, he did not know what they were, so got them for peanuts.

tut

jamie · Post by **jamie** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:50 pm

Neil
I know what you are on about with the sc and a big fat midrange making the top feel weedy. I found that once I had the Bemani fitted. And Bemani themselves suggest that using the midrange to exit corners although its not as much fun as revving the nuts out of a n/a engine

Jamie

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:11 am

jamie wrote:Neil
I know what you are on about with the sc and a big fat midrange making the top feel weedy. I found that once I had the Bemani fitted. And Bemani themselves suggest that using the midrange to exit corners although its not as much fun as revving the nuts out of a n/a engine

Jamie

yep, its not that its actually weedy, just FEELS weedy. At the end of the day, if your not racing and just doing trackdays, the sensation of speed is more important than actual speed.

rossybee · Post by **rossybee** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:39 am

Sanjoy wrote:Loving it! Reads like a copy of Evo with the latest Merc!

Looking fwd to the first 400 bhp car!

Indeed!

Any fool can have over 400 ponies

Look at my tintop for example - 450bhp, but it's hauling about 1900kg about, and that's not including my lardy bahookie

As has been said, PTW is the key

Andy G · Post by **Andy G** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:00 am

mckeann wrote:i hope to save 18kg on driver.

I'll drive it for you if you think it would help

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