Anybody want a S/C kit?

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Post by mckeann » Wed May 23, 2007 9:59 pm

robin wrote:It may be stonking but as it's n/a and <2.0L it's a fair fight for a Honda n/a engine, IMHO. The sequential gearbox is an option for everyone in class B - right enough most people wouldn't bother, but it's an option.

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your completly right, as always. I am just looking at it from a cost point of view. The cost to build a high power NA honda, with a sequential gearbox is huge, and the relaibility is probably as dubious as the K.

I must admit, if i was to build a race car for class B, i would stay K series, get the weight as low as possible, then decide how much power i needed to meet the regs. In fact, thats probably the best way to do it in every class.

Thing is though, my car isnt really a race car. It gets ragged up and down the motorway at hundreds of tuts per hour. it doesnt get much in the way of sympathy. I still drive to work in it, and i use it on the road. The appeal of the SC is that its not only cheaper, but if i blow an engine, then i just buy another standard honda.



Anyway, not really fussed about the SC, as long as everyone is playing to the same rules.

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Post by robin » Wed May 23, 2007 10:03 pm

Nah, the duratec is OK - it's still n/a so torque curve comparable to honda and bigger K's. The remaining differences are small enough - how much weight you can (afford to) lose then more significant than how much power you can wring from the engine.


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Post by tut » Wed May 23, 2007 10:52 pm

Makes sense to me that a S/C Honda should be in Class C regardless of how it is restricted.

However if you are going to race in C and want to try and win, assuming you have the ability, then you are going to need to match the power of the front runners, Walshy, Randy, Treasure, Scuffers, and that is just for starters. That means at least 320hp, but remember that theirs have been mapped probably regardless of expence, and they also have backing.

You can probably achieve this with a custom made Jim Valentine complete exhaust system, the DC5 S/C kit and we probably already have a suitable map.

What they are weighing in at I do not know, but on top of the power they all have bewinged Exiges, or Motorsport bodied Elises, and that would be hard to match.

Bottom line is probably a SE car could not win in any of the classes, regardless of the drivers ability, without a bloody big wallet, or mechanical failures/wipe outs from those in front.

However if you just want to compete and enjoy it as Andy is doing at the moment, with a great non pro back up team, then that is another matter.

I think Neil feels the same as I would, he enjoys the racing, but he wants to beat every other car on the grid.

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Post by Kelvin » Wed May 23, 2007 11:18 pm

The irony is that the bigger support teams are probably doing the least well in terms of reliability.

tut, getting back to the point :D I never really planned on S/C mine largely because it becomes increasingly hard and more expensive to insure plus the running costs increase quite significantly. However, at this sort of price it might be worth buying one anyway. Of course the running costs for mine is currently zero discounting tax and insurance.

...ponders...when do you need to know by?

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Post by tut » Wed May 23, 2007 11:50 pm

Hi Kelv

Waiting for a confirmed date, but probably in the next three weeks. Fuel consumption does drop if you use the whole gear/rev range, but there is no need except when on track. And with SAGA it only costs me £340 including Trackdays.

The performance is so good and smooth that 6th gear is used most of the time, and 32 mpg is the norm. Likewise because the revs are kept lower, engine life should be at least as good. Driveability is an eye opener, and it was pretty good before.

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Post by Dominic » Thu May 24, 2007 7:25 am

I know a certain Dutch gentleman who experienced Tut's car recently, and raved about... in fact, I'm sure he was away to find a S/C fo his :? :wink:
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Post by Dave E » Thu May 24, 2007 7:26 am

Well if anything could lure me out of lurkdom its discount goods :wink:

Neil, just buy one and stash it for later? Worst case you decide not to use it and pass it on to another SEer, its not like you can lose money at this price.

BTW didn't see any mad Scots signed for the seloc ring trip so you must be comming over on a different date right?

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Post by tut » Thu May 24, 2007 8:06 am

Dominic

Yvo called me yesterday reference the S/C.

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Post by Dominic » Thu May 24, 2007 8:32 am

tut wrote:Dominic

Yvo called me yesterday reference the S/C.

tut


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Post by YvoTuk » Thu May 24, 2007 8:37 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You guys are talking too much

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Post by Scotty C » Thu May 24, 2007 10:35 am

mckeann wrote:bloody hell. I wish i was allowed to run a SC in class B like the other driver :roll:
Why is that?
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Post by Scotty C » Thu May 24, 2007 11:07 am

Bottom line is probably a SE car could not win in any of the classes, regardless of the drivers ability, without a bloody big wallet, or mechanical failures/wipe outs from those in front.


Not sure about that coment Tut :wink:
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Post by jamie » Thu May 24, 2007 11:22 am

I am sure McKeann will have his day :D

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