Brexit.

[PhilA]

What Queen Nicola was/is hoping for was to get a deal where she can declare independence from the english WITHOUT a referendum and walk into the EU

And i can see the EU agreeing to that just to spite the english

say that was to happen - i for one would be in edinburgh all tartaned up, blue and white faced, flag as a cape and calling for her to resign. no freaking way should be have declared indy.

[tut]

Gloria De Piero has just resigned. She should start her own party.

tut

[campbell]

It's going to stay exciting for some time yet. Buckle up folks. Cream rises to the top. Ideologists may yet be unseated by pragmatists. Popcorn time...

[thinfourth]

What Queen Nicola was/is hoping for was to get a deal where she can declare independence from the english WITHOUT a referendum and walk into the EU

And i can see the EU agreeing to that just to spite the english

say that was to happen - i for one would be in edinburgh all tartaned up, blue and white faced, flag as a cape and calling for her to resign. no freaking way should be have declared indy.

No you wouldn't

You would be abandoning country the same as anyone else who has seen the SNP for what they are

[c8rkh]

What Queen Nicola was/is hoping for was to get a deal where she can declare independence from the english WITHOUT a referendum and walk into the EU

And i can see the EU agreeing to that just to spite the english

As I said in my post, she's been told by the EU that that ain't going to happen. There is some talk of a reverse Greenland position, but it all looks highly unlikely. Too many vested interests would be hurt if they made it easy for Queen Nicola.

I think it is going to be fun watching in.

[PhilA]

What Queen Nicola was/is hoping for was to get a deal where she can declare independence from the english WITHOUT a referendum and walk into the EU

And i can see the EU agreeing to that just to spite the english

say that was to happen - i for one would be in edinburgh all tartaned up, blue and white faced, flag as a cape and calling for her to resign. no freaking way should be have declared indy.

No you wouldn't

You would be abandoning country the same as anyone else who has seen the SNP for what they are

[ikarl]

I voted leave

Almost purely down to NOT supporting the SNP position

Me too

I was fairly confident it was always going to be a "leave", but purely as a tactical vote against the SNP, I voted leave to bolster the contingent in Scotland in the hope they saw no need for an indyref2

In my opinion, the SNP (and all other parties in Scotland) failed. There should've been an overwhelming "remain" (high 70/80%) in Scotland.......maybe then the whole uk would've remainded

[PhilA]

I voted leave

Almost purely down to NOT supporting the SNP position

Me too

I was fairly confident it was always going to be a "leave", but purely as a tactical vote against the SNP, I voted leave to bolster the contingent in Scotland in the hope they saw no need for an indyref2

In my opinion, the SNP (and all other parties in Scotland) failed. There should've been an overwhelming "remain" (high 70/80%) in Scotland.......maybe then the whole uk would've remainded

its funny - the stats show that Scotland did cause Leave - the Remain was higher in other pro Remain areas - so technically Scotland cost UK its EU membership (the swing would ahve done it)

[Mikie711]

I voted leave

Almost purely down to NOT supporting the SNP position

Me too

I was fairly confident it was always going to be a "leave", but purely as a tactical vote against the SNP, I voted leave to bolster the contingent in Scotland in the hope they saw no need for an indyref2

In my opinion, the SNP (and all other parties in Scotland) failed. There should've been an overwhelming "remain" (high 70/80%) in Scotland.......maybe then the whole uk would've remainded

wouldn't have been nearly enough. Leave won by 1.3 million votes, 1 million people voted for leave in Scotland so they would have still won but 300k give or take.. Scotland was never going to make much of a difference in this referendum.

[PhilA]

1.6mil voted Remain
1 mil voted Leave.

Overall result was about 1.3m

so if Scotland was more like 88%, then it would have virtually done it

[Mikie711]

Even if Scotland had been 100% remain then leave would have still won by 251,179 votes so wouldn't have made any difference except that the remain camp would probably have been crying harder about the narrowness of the outcome.

As for the result I am not to fused either way. On the plus side we have removed another layer of bureaucrats from the decision tree. On the downside there is all the uncertainty that comes with a major political re-shuffle. History will judge if it was the right decision until then all we can do is keep calm and carry on

[j2 lot]

A straw poll at work - 8/10 (at the count of Thursday before result was in) voted leave because of the SNP position on Indyref2. Only 2 of the 8 actually wanted to leave the others took the hump at Jimmy Krankies threats and indirect instructions.

[PhilA]

Even if Scotland had been 100% remain then leave would have still won by 251,179 votes so wouldn't have made any difference except that the remain camp would probably have been crying harder about the narrowness of the outcome.

As for the result I am not to fused either way. On the plus side we have removed another layer of bureaucrats from the decision tree. On the downside there is all the uncertainty that comes with a major political re-shuffle. History will judge if it was the right decision until then all we can do is keep calm and carry on

my maths and logic must be mucked up then.
as 1.6m R, 1m L, different national as 1.3m.

So needs a swing of 0.651m
so only 2.251m R 0.349m L?

[neil]

I'd agree with your maths, however can you imagine the sh*t storm if Scotland had kept the UK in.

[BiggestNizzy]

You can Say alot of things about "Queen Nicola" but in fairness to her she appears to be the only one that had a plan for the situation we find ourselves in.