Brexit.

[Kelvin]

The Scottish hate the Conservatives. Had the Westminster Government been Liberal with widespread liberal values across Society akin to the Nordic countries there wouldn't be a cry for freedom. They can make all sorts of existential arguments about independence and the right to plough your own furrow but it boils down to hating the Tories.

[tut]

I was just in Tesco with Verian when the cashier asked the foreign couple in front of me if they needed help packing their bags.

I thought, bloody hell!, that started quicker than I expected.

tut

[Kinger]

I was just in Tesco with Verian when the cashier asked the foreign couple in front of me if they needed help packing their bags.

I thought, bloody hell!, that started quicker than I expected.

tut

Brilliant Tut, took me a minute to get that one

[Stevoraith]

Please forgive me for asking and I DO NOT wish to start a sh*t fight......
I have read with great interest this whole chat/forum thread.
One thing I don't understand about your first minister is
She wishes to have Scotland as an independent country, but demands that Scotland remains in the EU.
This I do not understand, can some one help me please??
Being part of the EU ultimately means you do as you are told, pay what you are told and become more and more part of Europe, so not independent really(IMHO)
Like I say not trying to be smart or cause trouble Im genuinely interested

I think the majority on here are struggling with that question too.

Why the union with the rest of the U.K. is so abhorrent but the union with Europe is so important I would love to find out.

I suspect the real answer is that being in the EU isn't genuinely important to her, it's just being used as a tool to whip up more feelings of injustice and help achieve the ultimate (and only) ambition of independence from the rest of the U.K.

[pshanks76]

Please forgive me for asking and I DO NOT wish to start a sh*t fight......
I have read with great interest this whole chat/forum thread.
One thing I don't understand about your first minister is
She wishes to have Scotland as an independent country, but demands that Scotland remains in the EU.
This I do not understand, can some one help me please??
Being part of the EU ultimately means you do as you are told, pay what you are told and become more and more part of Europe, so not independent really(IMHO)
Like I say not trying to be smart or cause trouble Im genuinely interested

I think the majority on here are struggling with that question too.

Why the union with the rest of the U.K. is so abhorrent but the union with Europe is so important I would love to find out.

I suspect the real answer is that being in the EU isn't genuinely important to her, it's just being used as a tool to whip up more feelings of injustice and help achieve the ultimate (and only) ambition of independence from the rest of the U.K.

And she's probably hoping for some EU bailouts when Scotland's economy fails after going independent.

[PhilA]

Please forgive me for asking and I DO NOT wish to start a sh*t fight......
I have read with great interest this whole chat/forum thread.
One thing I don't understand about your first minister is
She wishes to have Scotland as an independent country, but demands that Scotland remains in the EU.
This I do not understand, can some one help me please??
Being part of the EU ultimately means you do as you are told, pay what you are told and become more and more part of Europe, so not independent really(IMHO)
Like I say not trying to be smart or cause trouble Im genuinely interested

I think the majority on here are struggling with that question too.

Why the union with the rest of the U.K. is so abhorrent but the union with Europe is so important I would love to find out.

I suspect the real answer is that being in the EU isn't genuinely important to her, it's just being used as a tool to whip up more feelings of injustice and help achieve the ultimate (and only) ambition of independence from the rest of the U.K.

And she's probably hoping for some EU bailouts when Scotland's economy fails after going independent.

if that happens, the conditions would be aka Greece and over 50% youth unemployment.

how to f up ur country in 1 go

[scott_e]

Please forgive me for asking and I DO NOT wish to start a sh*t fight......
I have read with great interest this whole chat/forum thread.
One thing I don't understand about your first minister is
She wishes to have Scotland as an independent country, but demands that Scotland remains in the EU.
This I do not understand, can some one help me please??
Being part of the EU ultimately means you do as you are told, pay what you are told and become more and more part of Europe, so not independent really(IMHO)
Like I say not trying to be smart or cause trouble Im genuinely interested

I think the majority on here are struggling with that question too.

Why the union with the rest of the U.K. is so abhorrent but the union with Europe is so important I would love to find out.

I suspect the real answer is that being in the EU isn't genuinely important to her, it's just being used as a tool to whip up more feelings of injustice and help achieve the ultimate (and only) ambition of independence from the rest of the U.K.

And she's probably hoping for some EU bailouts when Scotland's economy fails after going independent.

Eh, an independent Scotland as part of the EU is recognised as a sovereign nation ... as part of the UK we are not.

[Stevoraith]

This sovereign nation nonsense is something that seems to have suddenly come from nowhere.

Does anyone really give a flying monkey if their country is a sovereign nation? Is it more important than being a prosperous nation with a stable economy?

How many people actually even know what being a sovereign nation means? It's right up there with the other meaningless slogans adopted by the 'leave' campaign such as 'take back our country' and 'take control of our borders'.

[PhilA]

And she's probably hoping for some EU bailouts when Scotland's economy fails after going independent.

Eh, an independent Scotland as part of the EU is recognised as a sovereign nation ... as part of the UK we are not.[/quote]

soverign nation - never bought u bread, or cars, or houses.

its all ballocks, to me.

but u want to be soverign and poor, vote SNP xD

[Mikie711]

Reading an article in the Independent and it may not be a done deal yet. The prime minister, whoever he/she will be, will have to introduce into parliament the European communities repeal bill which then has to be voted on by the house of commons. Nothing says they have to pass the bill if it is in the best interests of the country.

No idea how true this is, makes a bit of a mockery of this and any other referendum if it is.

link here

[BiggestNizzy]

Is it more important than being a prosperous nation with a stable economy?

That would be nice. I do see anyone offering one of those.

[PhilA]

serious question, what banks would not be hosted in an indy scotland?
i dont want my money sitting at risk.

[campbell]

What do you mean by "hosted" and what are you looking to achieve!

[tut]

We got what we deserve.

Let the Populace decide on a major complex decision such as this and you have your result.

tut

[thinfourth]

We got what we deserve.

Let the Populace decide on a major complex decision such as this and you have your result.

tut

It was less then a week ago.

A bit early to call end of days


Though that said I am looking at property in New Zealand. No nationalists