Scottish Elises

I love it.

The hands on pilot was the Co-Pilot, F/O Coward...............

tut

Sounds like he didn't live up to his name then, miraculous that it didn't end in disaster. Bet his underpants needed changing when the power cut!!

I like the comments from one of the passengers saying that he though it was just a heavy landing. He has obviously been a passenger on too many easyjet flights!

And of course how lucky that it didn't land on Gordon Browns plane at the other end of the runway....................

ruadh08 wrote: And of course how lucky that it didn't land on Gordon Browns plane at the other end of the runway....................

so only the second best outcome for the country then

Maybe next time

F/O did a great job. Seems he had a level head, reacted quickly, got the nose up, glided her in. Lots of luck involved in making it to the perimeter fence though... Could so easily have been loss of life.

Hats off to F/O Coward

*raises a glass*

So maybe people should now stop wingeing (sp) when it takes an extra minute to get your sandwich or there's no peanuts.......

Thats not what cabin crew are for !

Mr Momo wrote:So maybe people should now stop wingeing (sp) when it takes an extra minute to get your sandwich or there's no peanuts.......

Thats not what cabin crew are for !

Very well said.

They did very well, however both enignes failing at the same time suggests a lack of fuel... Lets hope not...

tut wrote:I love it.

The hands on pilot was the Co-Pilot, F/O Coward...............

tut

Very funny .

I found the whole parade of the crew for the media quite embarrassing .

Will be interesting to hear what the full report says and the repercussions.

http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/latest_news/ ... report.cfm

RICHARDHUMBLE wrote:They did very well, however both enignes failing at the same time suggests a lack of fuel... Lets hope not...

my money's on a failure of the electronics, don't these things land tjhemselves nowadays ?

BiggestNizzy wrote:

RICHARDHUMBLE wrote:They did very well, however both enignes failing at the same time suggests a lack of fuel... Lets hope not...

my money's on a failure of the electronics, don't these things land tjhemselves nowadays ?

They tend to one way or another, as we've just found out

Doubt it was lack of fuel - if the systems were working the pilot should have known well before the approach. Double flame out is extremely rare, but does happen very occasionally.

Software is dangerous . . .

Fd

I actually feel sorry for the crew.

I have been there and had friends even more so, and being lauded as a hero for doing your job is bloody embarrassing, and doing the rounds and interviews afterwards is even worse. Mind you I never complained about the groupies.

We do not know the facts yet, but if power was lost completely, or was not available when the throttles were opened, there would have been no time for check lists or even thought, so assuming that they were not doing an automated landing, all the pilot can do is try to stretch the glide without stalling, in this case clear the perimeter fence, and put it down in a straight line.

All runways are designed with an undershoot, so there were a few hundred metres of wet grass/mud in this case which ripped part of the undercarriage off and did a quick stop. The cabin crew look as if they did a great job with virtually no warning and certainly deserve praise.

However when I have to listen to so called experts analysing it all afterwards and telling me that the pilots will be in trauma and may never recover from it, I start screaming at the telly.

They will be chuffed to hell that they got it right, put it down safely, and that they and their passengers are all alive and well. And then if they are allowed to they will get together with the rest of their crew and go off for a good piss up.

However I doubt very much nowadays that the latter could happen.

tut

Here here. They did what they were supposed to do and got everyone off alive - no way are they traumatised - it's different for the pax - they were just passengers - when something bad happens and it's completely out of your control, it can get to you - but when you do the best you can and it pans out it's the opposite I think.

Cheers,
Robin

tut wrote:I actually feel sorry for the crew.

I have been there and had friends even more so, and being lauded as a hero for doing your job is bloody embarrassing, and doing the rounds and interviews afterwards is even worse. Mind you I never complained about the groupies.

We do not know the facts yet, but if power was lost completely, or was not available when the throttles were opened, there would have been no time for check lists or even thought, so assuming that they were not doing an automated landing, all the pilot can do is try to stretch the glide without stalling, in this case clear the perimeter fence, and put it down in a straight line.

All runways are designed with an undershoot, so there were a few hundred metres of wet grass/mud in this case which ripped part of the undercarriage off and did a quick stop. The cabin crew look as if they did a great job with virtually no warning and certainly deserve praise.

However when I have to listen to so called experts analysing it all afterwards and telling me that the pilots will be in trauma and may never recover from it, I start screaming at the telly.

They will be chuffed to hell that they got it right, put it down safely, and that they and their passengers are all alive and well. And then if they are allowed to they will get together with the rest of their crew and go off for a good piss up.

However I doubt very much nowadays that the latter could happen.

tut

Just read the AAIB report above. Very interesting, and if verified, it looks as if neither pilot took part in the landing.

Many of you will have seen the spoof film "Airplane".

I reckon it was the inflatable autopilot George that was probably the hero.

Remember the scene where the stewardess was blowing(sic) him up as he slowly deflated?

tut

ps ah those were the days. To hell with inflight coffee.......

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080339/quotes