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No not the guys who keep cows, the tyre people. Got my tyre repaired there last week and upon much closer inspection the monkey has scraped a lot of the very inside part of the rim.

Isn't this their one and only job... fitting tyres? How can you fcuk it up??? grrr... I'm guessing if i take it back they'll wriggle out of the damage somehow.

Also Ed, didn't national mess up one of your wheels?

The_Rossatron wrote:No not the guys who keep cows, the tyre people. Got my tyre repaired there last week and upon much closer inspection the monkey has scraped a lot of the very inside part of the rim.

Isn't this their one and only job... fitting tyres? How can you f**k it up??? grrr... I'm guessing if i take it back they'll wriggle out of the damage somehow.

when you say repaired do you mean a puncture repair??

Tom wrote:

The_Rossatron wrote:No not the guys who keep cows, the tyre people. Got my tyre repaired there last week and upon much closer inspection the monkey has scraped a lot of the very inside part of the rim.

Isn't this their one and only job... fitting tyres? How can you f**k it up??? grrr... I'm guessing if i take it back they'll wriggle out of the damage somehow.

when you say repaired do you mean a puncture repair??

It wasn't losing any presssure but there was a screw in it, so I thought it best to get it removed and patched up. How come?

I was always under the impression that you shouldn't repair punctured tyres that are exposed to hard use.(given that we use high speed rated tyres and give them stick on the track). I think any sidewall damage shouldn't/can't be repaired. If it's in the tread and it didn't puncture it should be ok.
As far as i know for a puncture they get a rubber bung, put it through a needle, and stick the needle through the hole, and effectively bung the hole up. OK to get you home but not for perm fix.

Not by any means an expert on this subject, but i'm sure someone else can advise better.

That's the usual advice given yeah.... Sidewalls a definate no-no.

I got a puncture on an old set of Toyo T1-S's (which were pretty soft tyres) about 200 miles after fitting. Got it repaired and ran the tyres for 7k miles (inc 2 trackdays) with no ill effects.

Suppose there's a chance it could have failed and the tyre gone down on track, but there's the same chance if you hit debris on track (ask me how I know about that one.... )

I had my mechanic friend telling me that even with the screw in the tread it would fine as it wasn't punctured, but best get it sorted for peace of mind.

Should I get a new tyre?

The_Rossatron wrote: I had my mechanic friend telling me that even with the screw in the tread it would fine as it wasn't punctured, but best get it sorted for peace of mind.

Hope i didn't worry you there . No puncture so fine.

Listen to shug, he knows more about it than me...

It's not been my week I'm just in overworryingmode just now. feel like a mong

No worries . Back to original topic, yeah Ed got one of his scraped by National. He can just get the black paint out though. It seems to happen all the time to most people as the tyre guys are (probably) mostly used to taking 14 inch tyres off steel rims . Mind you, most cars have alloys these days so you'd expect them to have a vague idea how it's done without damaging the wheel.

Mildly irritating that all - I would have expect them to say, "well what did you expect taking your wheel to us?"

I'd call them first, so they don't try to pass it off as curbing!

If they do it properly on a modern machine they shoulld have no need to touch the wheel at all apart from holding it on the inside.
Sidewall repairs are a no no unless it is just the tyre defender.

If you get a screw in the tyre then the best way to check is to spray on a water / fairy liquid solution & manipulate the object a little. No bubbles = no puncture. You should however remove the object as it will work it's way in and cause a puncture eventually.

Repairs in the tread area are done using a bung, a bit like the shape of a drawing pin with both the disk part and the needle part being glued onto the inside of the tyre. These should, like shug says be ok.

Shug in cheap repair shocker...

Bungs are fine, they are put in from the inside out so the pressure hold them in. Tyres are so tightly regulated now they can't just bodge it and scarper. I know guys who get motorbike tyres plugged with no ill effects at all.

Ross, since its Farmers, I guess their very reputation conscious. With that in mind, I'd be inclined to do as said above and phone them asap, and also get photographs of the damage. When you phone them, say you're not at all happy with the 'service' received, and tell them you're prepared to take things further if they don't intend to rectify the problem at their own expense (eg a refurb of the wheel). Old flatmate had his brand new Type-R delivered with a scuffed wheel (that I noticed) some 2 days after delivery, and they tried to fob him off - he made a song and dance and had the wheel refurbed gratis.

I imagine they'll not take too much persuading to sort it for you; its not as if its an old Sierra you brought in for a repair

If you need any help on the subject - drop me a PM and I'll see what I can do