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Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:08 am
by Lazydonkey
Need some help from the geeks
I'm toying with the idea of getting a new laptop and retiring my old desktop (currently running VIsta). The initial plan was to buy a NAS to use for backups etc etc but i then thought about sticking Linux (or similar) onto my old desktop and running it as a file server.
Requirements are;
- Cheap or free software
- File sharing for Mac and PC
- printer sharing for the same
- backup / disc mirroring options
- gui front end suitable for a moron who gets bored quickly
- maybe semi smart power management (optional)
- mibbe use it as an itunes server (sorry

)
....dont need a web server or email mailbox management but not actively against it either.
Any suggestions adies and gents ?
Ta in advance,
Martin
Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:20 am
by Ardiem
You could take a look at FreeNAS (
http://freenas.org/freenas). Really light-weight but may not give you everything you want.
For things like hassle free disk-mirroring for backup purposes you might be best shelling out for Windows Home Server although there are rumours of a new version based on Server 2008 being released soon.
Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:54 am
by Lazydonkey
Should say that this is the alternative i'm looking at
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151068
Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:19 am
by BiggestNizzy
I have an old desktop sitting in a cupboard that I use for running XBMC as a media server, to be honest It only gets used as a media server to send stuff to the PS3. all my data is stored on a WD mybookworld 500gb (getting full) and everything is connected together with a 16 port switch. it works fine even though it is all a bit cobbled together although I am currently trying to move away from powerline networking to wired.
I also discovered euro modules at the weekend so I am adding ports all over the house

Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:17 pm
by scott_e
i had a box running ubuntu for a project, not bad at all.
http://www.ubuntu.com/
Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:24 pm
by scott_e
Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:26 pm
by BiggestNizzy
I tried Ubuntu and I am sure I have a PC that runs it. It was good up until I wanted to do anything and had to sit with my windows pc and read all the commands off the screen and type them into the command prompt
and
F@#k all lotus content
Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:27 pm
by scott_e
Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:46 pm
by Lazydonkey
BiggestNizzy wrote:I tried Ubuntu and I am sure I have a PC that runs it. It was good up until I wanted to do anything and had to sit with my windows pc and read all the commands off the screen and type them into the command prompt
REALLY not up for that

Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:15 pm
by Ardiem
REALLY not up for that
Which is why is didn't suggest Ubuntu after you specified
gui front end suitable for a moron who gets bored quickly
as prerequisite... I've felt the pain of Linux too often. It's 'fun' if you can be bothered but most people these days want something that just works.
One thing I like about my Windows Home Server is the uTorrent add-on which means you can log into the web interface (remotely too, if you want) and have it run in the background. Naturally you can stream TV, films, music, pics, files etc locally and remotely and automatically backup any windows machines on your home network. Nice thing about it its that 'it just works'. Only problem I've had is streaming video to PS3 you need to get the exact right format of video or it can get a bit wanky.
Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:24 pm
by BiggestNizzy
Ardiem wrote: Only problem I've had is streaming video to PS3 you need to get the exact right format of video or it can get a bit wanky.
I have some software for that as yes it can be a bit wanky
Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:00 pm
by Ferg
I went through the same quandry recently after outgrowing my Buffalo Linkstation Live 320Gb.
After weighing everything up, with specific sensitivity to cost, I just ended up using a fresh XP installation and buying a raid card and two 500Gb disk from ebuyer. The drives are mirrored for full redundancy, expanadable with more drives and you have the ease of sharing easily using windows and just RDPing on the machine when you want to manage it. The Raid card even came with windows software that emails you if anything untoward happens. Not including the donor computer I did the whole thing for £100.
If you fancy my 320Gb Buffalo NAS then drop me a PM.

Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:23 pm
by scott_e
BiggestNizzy wrote:Ardiem wrote: Only problem I've had is streaming video to PS3 you need to get the exact right format of video or it can get a bit wanky.
I have some software for that as yes it can be a bit wanky
I use TVersity for media serving to PS3. Field around my amp drops bit rate however so i tend to use it as a library and copy files to the PS3 before watching. TVersity is free, works a treat.
Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:29 pm
by Ardiem
Yep, I tried Tversity too but being deaf I need subtitles as well and the transcription was a bit of a faff with Tversity so I just transcribe when I er...legally obtain my films, most likely using same software as BiggestNizzy.
You can save yourself the whole RAID configuration, a lot of hassle and £25 by buying WHS for £75 pretty much anywhere. You can add new drives and it automatically increases the server storage without needing to get your hands dirty adding them to an existing RAID array and that applies to internal drives as well as USB drives. You simply plug in the new drive, WHS sees it and increases your dynamic storage automatically.
Sorry to bang on about it (and no I don't work for M$) but there's not a lot better out there at the moment for doing all the things that you wanted. You can download a 30 day evaluation too if you want to try before you buy.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/produc ... /eval.mspx
Re: Linux on home servers (FALC)
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:20 pm
by Lazydonkey
Hmmmm
To add on WHS i'm talking £75 plus another 500GB HD (say £50)
Or i could spent that money and a bit more an get this
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149510
Hmmmm decisions decisions.
How is WHS at working with Macs ?