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The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:14 am
by BiggestNizzy
I don't live there, Kilmarnock is a big place.
Although I did see the Junkie's girlfriend this morning on the way to work, not with the Junkie in the program I may add.
Also the Lazy woman who just sat in bed all day smoking fags and taking in the homeless, admited to lying to the police to try and get a guy off on TV - idiot.
Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:41 am
by robin
Sterilization is the only way ... voluntary & funded, of course!
If you add up the cost of the generations of unparented children, it would even make sense to pay significant sums - 50K per sterilization seems cheap to me.
I would like to think that the folk on that program were hand picked as the worst examples, but I'm afraid that probably is not the case ... more over it has nothing to do with them being in Kilmarnock or even Scotland - you can find similar situations (with different accents) across the whole of the UK
Cheers,
Robin
Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:51 am
by BiggestNizzy
robin wrote:Sterilization is the only way ... voluntary & funded, of course!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8645719.stm
Already on it's way, The Junkie in last nights program would be a prime candidate as apparently he has 10 or so kids to various 16ish year old girls.
Also the wee ned was in the bookies last night with another boy from work.
Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:04 am
by neil
so that was for real?? I had assumed it was some sort of mockumentary
Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:44 am
by j2 lot
I couldn't watch more than first few minutes or I WOULD have smashed the tv and I can't afford that. That I guess is the 'broken society' which politicians - specifically David Cameron refers too. If he or any other politician can fix that blight on our country, they will have my vote for life !!!
Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:48 am
by GregR
I felt really sorry for them.
I did wonder what the ex-junky's girlfriend was doing with him .. until I saw here eyes and concluded she was permenantly on something. He looked like he was trying to turn things around until the ex turned up. Still, could just be a conincidence.
The one that annoyed me was the woman that was playing good samaratin. I thought she was a shining beacon until she sat in bed, smoking fags and demanding one of her intake take her impressionable little girl to school - late - by shouting, "some c*nts gotta do it." All respect out the window, compounded by the lieing to the fuzz. Hopefully there'll be a little perverting the course of justice charge there.
For 'the family' I felt really sorry for them too - trying to turn things round for their kiddies. All the wee one wants to do is ride high on his family's reputation it seemed.
I liked the fact they all had better tvs than I've got too

Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:51 am
by Corranga
robin wrote:Sterilization is the only way ... voluntary & funded, of course!
If you add up the cost of the generations of unparented children, it would even make sense to pay significant sums - 50K per sterilization seems cheap to me.
That could kill 2 birds in a way. I'd imagine a junkie with 50k might well become an OD'd junkie. On the other side of things, the number of burberry wrapped jags might go on the increase...
Maybe they can do a deal with some select companies and offer packs of 50 pink velvet track suits / white adidas track suits with matching burberry caps each to everyone that comes in for a sterilization...
Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:54 am
by mac
What channel was this on? I was working last night so never got a chance to watch it (didn't know it was on either)
I'm quite interested as I'm a product council scheme housing too (although not Kilmarnock)
Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:58 am
by BiggestNizzy
Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:08 am
by tenkfeet
Did you notice there appeared to be large flat screen TV's in all the houses.
Will resist posting some of my more creative views on how to deal with junkies.
Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:46 am
by graeme
We need to remove all the incentives that these people have to breed (housing, benefit payments etc). I'm not sure it's even necessary to add a positive incentive not to breed.
It has been shown that a mother, with all incentives removed, can make a pretty good choice whether or not to have a baby purely on whether she feels ready to bring it up. Of course, if that baby comes with a council house and some benefit payments, the choice goes the wrong way.
Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:08 pm
by DDtB
I genuinely knew a girl who once said to me....
"I'm going to have another baby. Not bothered who the dad is. If I do that.... I'll get a house". She was living in a 2 bed flat at that point which was fully furnished from Argos at the tax payers' expense. I helped her pick the furniture from the catalogue...
At that point, her mum had 4 kids to 3 dads and her sister had 2 kids to 2 dads... etc. That was just normal for 'those' kind of people unfortunately. The name of the game was to work the system for their own benefit. Who's at fault... them?? the system?? both?? Something is definitely wrong anyway!!
I stopped seeing her just after that!! (she's now single again and currently has 4 kids to 2 dads and a big house btw!)

Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:33 pm
by holly
I'm just about to watch this sounds interesting!

Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:48 pm
by kenny
I may watch later but I don't know if my blood pressure will cope.
Re: The Scheme
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:51 pm
by s29ttc
holly wrote:I'm just about to watch this sounds interesting!

Haaay! You might have waited until I was in from work
