Fixed Penalty Advice

Anything goes in here.....
User avatar
craignicol
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:42 am
Location: Aberdeen

Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by craignicol » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:13 am

Guys,

On friday evening I nipped down to Inverurie to pick up some Pizzas and must of stopped on the zig zags outside the Pizza shop on WEST High Street.

I got pulled as i moved off and given a fixed penalty slip thing stating that I have 3 points and a £60 fine to pay within 28 days.

However, the police have written the ticket for the High Street Inverurie (Opposite No 34)
Thats is nowhere near West high street (Opposite No 34) where the pizza shope is, also nowhere near any zig zags!

Have I a case here?? If so how would i appeal it?

Thanks in advance.
BMW 123d (Monday to Thursday)
S2 Exige S (Sold)
Porsche 911 C4S (Friday to Sunday)
Caterham 7 JPE (A few minutes everyother weekend)

User avatar
meatball
Posts: 5043
Joined: Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:50 pm
Location: LOST!

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by meatball » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:26 am

If the information is incorrect you can try and have the ticket voided, however they then may just report the circumstances to the PF (quite unlikely though).

My only question is? If you did it.....why fight it?
/awkward mode off

User avatar
ikarl
Posts: 346
Joined: Mon May 28, 2007 9:47 pm
Location: Hamilton

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by ikarl » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:50 am

you can try but very unlikely, the information on the ticket can be changed by the police officer that wrote it if they later discover their mistake :evil:

in court the police officer will confirm that your car was parked on the zig zags (at the correct point of the road) and that they made a mistake in the writing of the ticket.... no 'get-out' I'm afraid.

if you want any further info about how much you get done over with the police irregularities, check the website PEPIPOO, a free forum with a load of motoring solicitors willing to help and advise
VX220 s/c
330xd estate

User avatar
j2 lot
Posts: 7658
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:47 pm
Location: Strathaven / Glasgow

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by j2 lot » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:04 pm

I'm with Meatball on this - take the hit. If you fight it you may need to go to court to plead not guilty and may well end up getting a heavier fine than the fixed penalty. Is it worth the time and effort - would you admit guilt and pay up if it was correct? I would get it over and done with and mark it down as lesson learnt. :|
2015 Lotus Evora
2023 Skoda Kodiaq Sportline

User avatar
craignicol
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:42 am
Location: Aberdeen

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by craignicol » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:44 pm

I agree with you all, I was in the wrong however 3 points on a clean license is a little harsh. Inverurie at night is not like Union street on Saturday morning!

Probably will just take the hit, but I have heard a lot of people trying their luck. (In my opinion worth a go!)
BMW 123d (Monday to Thursday)
S2 Exige S (Sold)
Porsche 911 C4S (Friday to Sunday)
Caterham 7 JPE (A few minutes everyother weekend)

User avatar
Rich H
Posts: 9314
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:11 pm
Location: Preston

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by Rich H » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:57 pm

Why not write to them and explain that there is an errror in your ticket as the location stated has no zig-zags. See if they amend it or bin it.
Basically you cannot sign it as that would be a false declaration (In itself illegal - no?) as you were not parked at that address at that time.
Worth a try and you have done nothing illegal then... still sucks though :evil:

Creating a false article is what we know it as in the military aircraft world: signing something that is either impossible or not carried out.
1994 Lotus Esprit S4 - Work in progress
1980 Porsche 924 Turbo - Funky Interior Spec
2004 Smart Roadster Coupe - Hers

User avatar
S111Y TT
Posts: 690
Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:39 pm
Contact:

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by S111Y TT » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:04 pm

Yea that is the approach I would take.

Don't deny what you did. Obviously do not admit it. However write in explaining that you were not near that location at that time, and even at that location their are no zig-zags. That way you are just argueing that the ticket is false not that you were not in the wrong. You are probably more likely to have success with this approach. All depends on how much they want to do you.

I would always try to avoid points, and always have since the day after I passed my test as I learned my lesson there.

Good luck what ever you do.
Ian Duncan

User avatar
Scotty C
Meat
Posts: 8352
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:11 am
Location: Aberdeen

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by Scotty C » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:10 pm

lazy fooker :lol:
"Here for a good time not a long time"

User avatar
ikarl
Posts: 346
Joined: Mon May 28, 2007 9:47 pm
Location: Hamilton

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by ikarl » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:42 pm

remember that the clock is running though.....

if they send you a letter back stating that you can argue your case in court and you subsequently want to reply back to pay the £60 and accept the points, if it isn't received in time, it will go to court and you will probably get an increased fine.
VX220 s/c
330xd estate

User avatar
ABZ-Elise
Posts: 556
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:59 pm
Location: Inverurie

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by ABZ-Elise » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:30 pm

I didn't know that parking on the zigzag lines would land you with 3 points :shock: fair enough dishing out a fine. I know they normally put them outside schools etc. where there are alot of people walking around but surely they could of let you off with a warning in the evening when it was alot quieter.

3 points aren't the end of the world and it most likey won't do anything to your insurance. I'm up at 6 points just now and my insurance is still ok, think it only went up by £50 over the year.

Kev.
1999 S1 Elise - For Sale
2003 E46 M3 - Sold
2004 Defender 90 Truck Cab - Sold
1989 Defender 110 (Project) - Sold

User avatar
S111Y TT
Posts: 690
Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:39 pm
Contact:

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by S111Y TT » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:34 pm

You can park on certain Zig Zags at certain times. There are some on Esselmont Avenue in Aberdeen outside a school which I used to park on at nights and weekends and never got a ticket. The traffic warden just kept walking so it's obviously fine. He once issued me with a ticket 5 minutes after my paid parking ran out and ten minutes after I got to my car. Couldn't believe it.

Dad doesn't know about that one though so shhh. :mrgreen:
Ian Duncan

User avatar
tut
Barefoot Ninja
Posts: 22975
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:53 pm
Location: Tut End, Glen of Newmill

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by tut » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:08 pm

twat........

dad

ps Craig just told me about your petrol consumption on tt.

User avatar
S111Y TT
Posts: 690
Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:39 pm
Contact:

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by S111Y TT » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:17 pm

I told you it was glugging it something unreal.

Anyway only parking ticket I ever got compared to Clare. Was last year ana.

Back to petrol, since I was in the turbo band all the time so I could keep up then it was drinking it. As it does, this is massively down to the re-map apparently. Better fuel consumption at the low end, but when in the high end it's far worse.

Think I was using twice ass much fuel as Craig when covering the same distances.
Ian Duncan

User avatar
robin
Jedi Master
Posts: 10544
Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:39 pm

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by robin » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:30 pm

Parking on zig-zag cannot be legal at any time of day and night. That's like saying it's legal to drive through red lights late at night.

The parking warden is ignoring it because it's not his domain ... in the same way as he cannot do you for speeding.

Cheers,
Robin
I is in your loomz nibblin ur wirez
#bemoretut

User avatar
S111Y TT
Posts: 690
Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:39 pm
Contact:

Re: Fixed Penalty Advice

Post by S111Y TT » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:56 pm

robin wrote:Parking on zig-zag cannot be legal at any time of day and night. That's like saying it's legal to drive through red lights late at night.

The parking warden is ignoring it because it's not his domain ... in the same way as he cannot do you for speeding.

Cheers,
Robin

Ah right didn't know that.

Police go by their all the time though and all residents park on it. There could possibly be a sign beside it, I will have a look and find out.

Anyway good to know it isn't allowed.
Ian Duncan

Post Reply