Scottish Elises

Thinking of giving it a bash, cant be that hard.

Anyone got any tips ?

Going to be a 16kw unit with 1.75m of vitreous enamel going in to 4m of double walled, through a wooden ceiling then up through a flat roof.

Any advice and offers of hands much appreciated!

SP

Speak to Euan (Gooldie). http://www.gibsonandgoold.co.uk/

My chimney sweep bloke installed mine as part of the deal to buy it.
Seemed fairly straightforward pipe joinng exercidse in my case since it just went straight out of the rear, through the wall and up the outside of the building.
Building control folk had various requirements re the hearth size, ventilation requirements and stuff

Usually a few threads on PH on the subject. Most recent here: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/to ... woodburner

16kW toasty!!!!

Hi Sanjoy, I fitted my own before, and learned a few lessons. The heat from a woodburner is seriously hot on the chimney so the chimney has to be in good condition, must have a liner at the minimum. If in doubt it is best to fit a flexi liner. Most prof installers will fit a liner anyway as the diameter of a standard chimney is often to wide to be effective with a woodburner.

16kw is a serious stove, you might want to double check that figure, it depends on the area to be heated etc. I fitted a 9kw stove and it was really too hot for the room, 5kw would have been fine. The other thing to consider is ventilation. Anything over 5kw is supposed to have a direct supply of fresh air from outside. It is a good idea, as the fire is obviously burning the oxygen in the air, and this will be replaced with air through any vent, doorway, floorboard etc that can be found which basically results in lots of draughts. Putting a vent to the fire means that the only additional draught is at the fire and that cold air is soon disposed of.

With a big fire and no vent, I found it dried your eyes out and put you to sleep. I'm now in the process of putting another one in and will be making sure to correct bot problems.

If your looking for a woodburner, my 9kw one will be coming out soon. Not much action or use, black stove style with a little roof one it.

Kerry

kerryxeg wrote:Hi Sanjoy, I fitted my own before, and learned a few lessons. The heat from a woodburner is seriously hot on the chimney so the chimney has to be in good condition, must have a liner at the minimum. If in doubt it is best to fit a flexi liner. Most prof installers will fit a liner anyway as the diameter of a standard chimney is often to wide to be effective with a woodburner.

16kw is a serious stove, you might want to double check that figure, it depends on the area to be heated etc. I fitted a 9kw stove and it was really too hot for the room, 5kw would have been fine. The other thing to consider is ventilation. Anything over 5kw is supposed to have a direct supply of fresh air from outside. It is a good idea, as the fire is obviously burning the oxygen in the air, and this will be replaced with air through any vent, doorway, floorboard etc that can be found which basically results in lots of draughts. Putting a vent to the fire means that the only additional draught is at the fire and that cold air is soon disposed of.

With a big fire and no vent, I found it dried your eyes out and put you to sleep. I'm now in the process of putting another one in and will be making sure to correct bot problems.

If your looking for a woodburner, my 9kw one will be coming out soon. Not much action or use, black stove style with a little roof one it.

Kerry

Cheers, I got to the figure using thiscalculator which actually suggest 20kw.

Agree ref the cold air intake.

Would be using a doulbe skinned flue stright up to the ceiling (4m) then out.

Hmm spare stove eh ? I am on the look out for old stoves on fleabay for the barn, prob too nice for that though as I am after a beat up old split one that could be welded.

Cheers, SE helping out immensely as usual.

Sanjoy

There are a number of considerations relevant to the Building Regulations, you can carry out the installation but it must conform to the current standards.

Try looking at Sections 3.17-3.23 for guidance.

http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/tech_handbooks/t ... c_2007.pdf

One other consideration we had to make on a recent job was the relationship to tree canopies, requires to be 2m above flue terminal. May not be an issue though.

I'm sure more professional and experienced advice will be available but hope this helps.

Malcolm

your fellow 340rR owner is your friend.

A mate of mine put one in garage a few years ago and I'm thinking of doing the same this winter as I can get free wood it would make it rather snug on a cold day....perhaps with a flat screen tv and a few beers

We had a coal fire, and one night i noticed smoke coming out of our downlighters which was quite a worry I looked into getting the chimney repaired but the cost was silly, so instead decided to put in a woodburner (woodburner +flue liner cheaper then chimney repair). The wood burner itself as a 5 inch flue outlet but i installed a 6inch flue liner recommended by building regs (English). You also need to keep a air gap around the burner and to keep safe distances away from combustible materials, i got all my information from the different fireplace sites.
Mine is a small firefox which produces some serious heat but has more control then a coal fire, best move we made.