Winter tyres. Discuss.

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Post by Lazydonkey » Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:07 pm

Continue to be impressed by the cross climates. Obviously difficult to compare back to back but I don't seem to remember the conti winters I had on the civic being much better in the snow / ice.

A great compromise if you don't want to run two sets.

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Post by Mikie711 » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:30 pm

I have just fitted Michelin Latitude cross to the navara and although not a winter tyre I am well impressed with the grip levels in snow. Local fitter recommended them and have to say they have surpassed my expectations.
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Winter tyres. Discuss.

Post by Sanjøy » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:35 pm

So I bought a nasty pair to steel wheels the week before Xmas to put on the family barge for a new year Aviemore run. They were shod with Apollo and Hankook winter tyres with plenty to tread. Better than summers in the snow eh?

Well there was no snow but there was ice, lots of it. No problem with inclines that levelled the X5s but on the thick ice on the flats stopping distances at dead slow were lonnng and dangerous.

Cheap winters or laws of fizics?
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Post by neil » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:40 pm

Sanjoy wrote:
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Cheap winters or laws of fizics?
Bit of both I reckon. I'm running Conti winters and have only once had a problem stopping - I'm pretty sure for me it was down to sheet ice under a layer of snow. Straight ice or snow's never been an issue.
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Post by Stevoraith » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:07 pm

I’d say fizzics bruv.

Conti winters on both cars here too- never had any issues but then I don’t think I’ve ever experienced sheet ice like that! 😲
There’s only so much you can do with four patches of rubber, you’d need studs to stop on that IMO.

As an aside, is your Aviemore place next to the shops at Dalfaber? We were up in the October hols and pretty sure I recognised the Panzer sitting outside.
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Post by jj » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:13 pm

Yeah that looks spicy for any type of winter tyres. I had some nankangs last year on the van and they seemed good in snow, but went for Pirelli Sottozeros on the new van as it’s RWD. They’ve been excellent, as it is pretty tail happy (200hp 2.1 merc vito)

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Post by Sanjøy » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:19 pm

Stevoraith wrote:I’d say fizzics bruv.

Conti winters on both cars here too- never had any issues but then I don’t think I’ve ever experienced sheet ice like that! Image
There’s only so much you can do with four patches of rubber, you’d need studs to stop on that IMO.

As an aside, is your Aviemore place next to the shops at Dalfaber? We were up in the October hols and pretty sure I recognised the Panzer sitting outside.
Also think I saw you in the brewery with the wee man while I was in getting pissed, I mean getting a tour with the father-in-law. Didn’t speak as I didn’t think you’d remember who I was Image
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Post by Sanjøy » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:20 pm

jj wrote:Yeah that looks spicy for any type of winter tyres. I had some nankangs last year on the van and they seemed good in snow, but went for Pirelli Sottozeros on the new van as it’s RWD. They’ve been excellent, as it is pretty tail happy (200hp 2.1 merc vito)
Apart from the Main Street the whole of Aviemore was like that for days. Was comedy walking the dog or walking into town for New Years lunch. There had been some rain and mild thaw that then froze.

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Post by Stephen » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:41 pm

Winter tyres can only do so much. If there's nothing to grip to then it won't matter. It's the same with 4wd. The both vastly improve the chance of getting grip but if there's none there's none.
Studs will help as like crampons they make their own grip.

On a different note what's folks views of 4wd v 2wd?
Since I have been running snow tyres I've never really had a traction problem with the 2wd A4, so am thinking 4wd is not really necessary if you are correctly shod and on road.

Currently looking at an XC60 and considering the 2wd manual as it looks to have the best fuel economy. If anyone has any views/ experience is be glad to hear them.
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Post by jj » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:47 pm

Last week I drove about in 6-8inches if fresh snow in our new XC90 on summer tyres and it was unstoppable. A 2wd fwd car on winter tyres would probably have done similar, as would a rwd on winters. Both on normal tyres; not a chance in my opinion.

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Post by Sanjøy » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:48 pm

jj wrote:Last week I drove about in 6-8inches if fresh snow in our new XC90 on summer tyres and it was unstoppable. A 2wd fwd car on winter tyres would probably have done similar, as would a rwd on winters. Both on normal tyres; not a chance in my opinion.
What profile? Drove my sisters new X5 on its moon buggy wheels which would have stood no chance.
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Post by Stephen » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:29 pm

4wd gets things going, but I wouldn't like to try to stop a big car on summer tyres quickly.
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Post by Mr Momo » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:27 pm

Typical - winters on, no snow to play with 🤡
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Post by jj » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:32 pm

Sanjoy wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:48 pm
jj wrote:Last week I drove about in 6-8inches if fresh snow in our new XC90 on summer tyres and it was unstoppable. A 2wd fwd car on winter tyres would probably have done similar, as would a rwd on winters. Both on normal tyres; not a chance in my opinion.
What profile? Drove my sisters new X5 on its moon buggy wheels which would have stood no chance.
It’s got 275/45/20 crosscontacts. Was really impressed, but then a 4wd Volvo should be capable in the snow. Winter tyres would be better again but don’t think I’ll bother, whereas the RWD van I wouldn’t be without the winter tyres.

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Post by Dominic » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:38 pm

From my experience, a FWD car on winters is more effective than a 4WD on summer tyres. A 4WD on winters is very impressive in poor conditions, but I reckon 2wd on winters is as much as will realistically required for our typical winters.
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