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telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:12 pm
by Rusty
Well bt man came a few weeks back and installed the phone line.
Phone worked fine in hall, only just got round to planning to put phone in livingroom
But socket seems dead, tried the others about the flat (5 altogether)
So has anyone wired in the rest of their sockets before?
If so, wanna do mine?
Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:36 pm
by neil
Is this not a new build you're in? If so I'd have said if the builder installed the extra sockets they should have wired them back to the master. It is a doddle if you do have to do them yourself although a cordless phones an even easier option and wont run the risk of interfering with your broadband. If you were closer I'd offer to pop round and give you a hand...
Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:08 pm
by CubanGav
New build = builders responsibility. They will have a sparky available to do it.
I'm a engineer and would easily have done it for you but just noticed where you are. A wee bit far.
All you need to do is go round the sockets making sure all the colour codes match the numbered terminations. Get a Krone tool from maplin to press the wires into the IDC connections.
Simples
Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:45 pm
by Rusty
Haha yeah its a new build, will go shout at builders to sort it!
Cheers for the offers!
Haha gav, the description you put went over my head!
Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:07 pm
by Ferg
If you don't have joy with the builders, the
proper toolfor the job is under a tenner from screwfix. Plenty of wiring guides online to keep you right.
Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:09 pm
by neil
Or
under £2 for a plastic one
Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:30 pm
by point n squirt
Rusty wrote:Haha yeah its a new build, will go shout at builders to sort it!
Cheers for the offers!
Haha gav, the description you put went over my head!
Why go "shout at builders" try asking nicely, builders have feelings to.

Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:57 pm
by OlberJ
That's true, they normally "feel this may be expensive"

Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:05 am
by Corranga
I have extensions plugged in all round the house, through the crawl space and inside walls. When virgin media came up to fit their line, I wasn't sure where the original bt line, and therefore the start of the chain was. Of course I found it hours later...
I suspect this is an obvious yes, but just in case...
Can I simple swap the connectors at the ends of the extension to make it go the other way...?
Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:42 am
by Rusty
point n squirt wrote:Rusty wrote:Haha yeah its a new build, will go shout at builders to sort it!
Cheers for the offers!
Haha gav, the description you put went over my head!
Why go "shout at builders" try asking nicely, builders have feelings to.

Sorry, ill go and ask them nicely. Well not right now, it may be a bit early!
Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:01 am
by robin
Corranga wrote:I have extensions plugged in all round the house, through the crawl space and inside walls. When virgin media came up to fit their line, I wasn't sure where the original bt line, and therefore the start of the chain was. Of course I found it hours later...
I suspect this is an obvious yes, but just in case...
Can I simple swap the connectors at the ends of the extension to make it go the other way...?
The master socket is different from the rest ... but not sure that's true when virgin provide your telephone service.
Ignoring the master socket issue, all the telephones are wired in parallel so there is nothing to swap about to "make it go the other way", whatever "it" is
Cheers,
Robin
Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:46 am
by Corranga
robin wrote:The master socket is different from the rest ... but not sure that's true when virgin provide your telephone service.
Ignoring the master socket issue, all the telephones are wired in parallel so there is nothing to swap about to "make it go the other way", whatever "it" is
Cheers,
Robin
That's what I thought.
Essentially, I tried to figure out where the daisy chain of extensions was originating from and ended up 1 step down the chain.
Providing there is enough wire to chop and rewire the connectors, I will be able to swap the connectors over and use a triple splitter to host the 2 extensions and phone running from the master.
Whilst we're on phones, any ideas of pulse to tone dial converting.
There seems to be a couple of devices, but I wondered if it could be a DIY project...
Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:39 am
by gorrie
Master BT socket can usually be identified from the front, by it having a 'joint' across it (as well as often a BT logo). If you unscrew it & find what looks like another socket directly behind then that's likely your master.
Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:44 am
by alicrozier
None of the extension sockets work in my house, I had a look and couldn't figure out what the builders had been doing (BT engineer also had a nosey when he was here and after much head scratching pronounced the builders as clueless).

They're all wired, just not to the right terminals.
It's not an issue really as router and (cordless) phone are straight into the master. Would be good to have them correct - if only for my OCD!
You're welcome to come round sometime and have a socket fixing party Gav (there are quite a few though!).

Re: telephone sockets? anyone fancy wiring in mine?
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:50 am
by H8OAG
The master socket differs from the rest mainly by the fact it has a capacitor across the connectors where the i/c line connects.
On of the elements of a BT/Network line test is a capacitor charge/discharge which proves that you have a line from the exchange to the customer premises.
I personally would not bother with internal wiring and sockets as a good digital cordless phone set will work in your home environment.........unless you live in an NCP car park where the farriday's cage effect will kick in
