Parking ticket - the cheek!

Gareth · Post by **Gareth** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:36 am

Stopped outside a kilt hire shop - on double yellows. Collected my kilt jacket when I realised I needed to buy a tie. Looked out the window, no yellow perils going about. Nipped upstairs to the shop and by the time I came back there was a yellow peril just printing one out. I try talking out of it....

"Sorry sweetheart...I've printed it out......beautiful car....can I take a picture?"
"Only if you take back your ticket"

She then takes out her camera and takes pic...with me £30 poorer.
Now the grey area....she never issued my car with the ticket...just handed it to me but then there's no doubt I was on double yellows with that pic.

MacK · Post by **MacK** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:41 am

Lesson learnt, you are never allowed to park on double yellows.

And you have been issued with the ticket, so no need to put it on your car.

Edit to add: I've just recieved a letter saying I have a parking ticket to pay for, but I never got a ticket, there was not one on the car. I've phoned up to ask for the photo, but been told the camera was faulty!

Greg!

Post by ed » Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:43 am

the ticket has to be on the car for it to count (i believe), in that situation you should always drive off. Ive had them stand in front of the car, i was in a rs4, i sunk the boot and he soon moved out of the way!

MacK · Post by **MacK** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:44 am

ed wrote:the ticket has to be on the car for it to count (i believe), in that situation you should always drive off. Ive had them stand in front of the car, i was in a rs4, i sunk the boot and he soon moved out of the way!

Surely if it's handed to you then they don't have to put it on the car though

Did you get a letter after driving off?

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:45 am

I think all parking wardens now have digicams as standard issue, I have seen them taking pics of cars they have ticketed outside my office.

If the photo clearly doesnt show the ticket on the car I imagine you would have a valid case for saying you never had a ticket when the demand for cash comes in.

Post by ed » Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:46 am

tbh, im not sure.

didnt get anything at all, its happened a few times, they have to take a picture with it on the car i think!?

Gareth · Post by **Gareth** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:50 am

Not worth the hassle avoiding it....just pay it

tuscan_thunder · Post by **tuscan_thunder** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:06 pm

there are legal implications here:

digital pictures are not admissible in court as proof (where this leaves speed cameras I don't know) only 'proper' photos. This is why, if you are involved in an accident, it's an idea to have a disposable camera in the glovebox, not a digi.

I don't see how a traffic warden's digi pic can be used as evidence when a member of the public can prove nothing with a digi pic. (probably one rule for one, one for t'other) I believe the reason is the risk of tampering or editing of the photo.

Fight the sods all the way!

Titanium S1 111S (gla) · Post by **Titanium S1 111S (gla)** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:16 pm

I have often used digital photos as evidence in court and intend to do so next week.

That having been said I donâ€™t do criminal work and no one has ever objected to photos I have sought to introduce.

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:20 pm

nicola (my girlfriend) just got a ticket in tesco's. they have the rule of free 2 hour parking. However, she works nearby to tesco's and has an official parking permit allowing her to use the car pack for work parking, which she has done for 2 years. She went out at lunchtime and has got a £20 ticket for having a wheel on the white line. (she claims because the car next to her was too far over, not that she was a bad parker, i dont believe her

)

any case??

tut · Post by **tut** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:24 pm

Yellow lines?

No problem, even get smiles from the Wardens. <BG>

tut

Titanium S1 111S (gla) · Post by **Titanium S1 111S (gla)** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:24 pm

Ticket will have come from Tesco rather than the local authority, I assume?

If so put it in the bin. They have no right to issue tickets and have no way to make you pay them.

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:25 pm

i think tesco out source there parking enforcement. I havent seen the ticket, will read it when i get home from work

Titanium S1 111S (gla) · Post by **Titanium S1 111S (gla)** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:30 pm

Donâ€™t think it matters that they outsource it, Iâ€™m no expert but understand that only the Council / Police can issue valid tickets. If it is private land then any ticket issued is a try on.

The ticket will undoubtedly be full of tough talk but itâ€™s almost certainly a load of balls.

Be intrested to hear what they say anyway.

G

RDH · Post by **RDH** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:34 pm

My understanding is that they could enforce them through the courts but for the sake of £20 it's not worth the hassle,

In Englandshire it's a different story, with clamping being legal, etc.

The joys of the Scottish legal system!