Scottish Elises

So how fast is this going do you reckon? Look how long it takes to stop.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/vide ... reet-video

In the Lambo drivers defence, it's quite hard to stop when you're airborne.
Looked like the Peugot? drivers fault 100% to me.

It was doing comfortably over 30mph - just listen to it before it takes off.

I have watched some absolutely ridiculous driving in and around there, its not uncommon to see folk redlining every kind of super and hyper car through 1st to 3rd up and down the same street. It has been an accident waiting to happen.

I'd say the Mazda driver was 100% to blame. I would suspect the Lambo was being driven slightly above the speed limit, but not a lot. Just my 2p

Edit to add: Just watched it again. I stand by my comment that the Mazda was to blame, but would add that if the Lambo driver had a bit more awareness and care in his approach, he would not have struck the Mazda with as much force or at all. I.e., he should have been exercising defensive driving.

I've no speakers :-/

flyingscot68 wrote:In the Lambo drivers defence, it's quite hard to stop when you're airborne.
Looked like the Peugot? drivers fault 100% to me.

100% - you must be joking? The speed the lambo was doing was OTT it is absolutely some contribution.

jj wrote:It was doing comfortably over 30mph - just listen to it before it takes off.

I have watched some absolutely ridiculous driving in and around there, its not uncommon to see folk redlining every kind of super and hyper car through 1st to 3rd up and down the same street. It has been an accident waiting to happen.

Exactly. It ruins it for people who respect built up areas, tar's a lot of 'fancy' cars with one brush. (at least doesn't help)

Dominic wrote:
Edit to add: Just watched it again. I stand by my comment that the Mazda was to blame, but would add that if the Lambo driver had a bit more awareness and care in his approach, he would not have struck the Mazda with as much force or at all. I.e., he should have been exercising defensive driving.

Still looks like the car that pulled outs fault to me.
Lambo didn't look to be going that fast.
I also doubt that you watched I that closely Dom, the guy driving the Lambo looks like a chick to me

Edited to add - Aventador sounds like it's doing 60 when it's doing 20.

LHD

GregR wrote:LHD

Lol

flyingscot68 wrote:Still looks like the car that pulled outs fault to me.
Lambo didn't look to be going that fast.
I also doubt that you watched I that closely Dom, the guy driving the Lambo looks like a chick to me

Edited to add - Aventador sounds like it's doing 60 when it's doing 20.

I suspect I watched it closer than you

GregR wrote:LHD

flyingscot68 wrote:Still looks like the car that pulled outs fault to me.
Lambo didn't look to be going that fast.
I also doubt that you watched I that closely Dom, the guy driving the Lambo looks like a chick to me

Edited to add - Aventador sounds like it's doing 60 when it's doing 20.

Sounds right. So in this case it sounded like it was doing 180 when it was doing 60.

No way was it going that fast.
A sixty mph crash is a major impact, that was just a bump.
You'd be amazed at the damage a 30mph crash can do. That didn't look fast to me at all.

Of course he was doing more than 30 - let's not feign innocence - and you can hear a moment's deceleration before impact on-camera too.

50/50 IMHO. You have to lay some responsibility on the driver of a car that appears on the scene more quickly than would be typically judged by another road user. It's quite possible the car pulled out without the Lambo being in sight, due to restricted sight lines peaking past parked cars - could possibly have been fine with a car driving at appropriate speed.

^ Some assumptions in there of course.