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Re: Evija

Post by scott_e » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:56 pm

Spotted this image on the main lotus landing page , that really is beautiful in the john player special decals.

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Re: Evija

Post by robin » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:24 pm

That's the first JPS styled car I've ever liked the look of! Still wouldn't have it in that colour though - mine would have to be in Marlboro colours :-) Or woodbine!
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Re: Evija

Post by robin » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:43 pm

0-100, 100-200, 200-300 each in 3s - that is very close to modern F1 speeds - could be a good safety car, so long as they only need to do 8 laps under the safety car :-)
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Re: Evija

Post by Mikie711 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:21 am

F1 speeds in a straight line is one thing, F1 speeds round a corner something else entirely. No doubt it will be quick, be interesting if anyone gets their hands on one to do a review.
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Re: Evija

Post by robin » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:58 am

I am sure it isn't going to corner like F1 - it weighs nearly 2x F1 car and cannot have anything like the aero. On the plus side it does have full torque vectoring so is able to pretty much push the car into and out of the corners without forcing wheel spin.

It might well be the fastest road legal car, though! Until you have to stop for a recharge, obviously :-)
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Re: Evija

Post by scott_e » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:40 pm

robin wrote:
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On the plus side it does have full torque vectoring so is able to pretty much push the car into and out of the corners without forcing wheel spin.
Its stuff like that which must be really appealing to Lotus engineers to push the boundaries on car performance. I guess the challenge is going to be picking an affordable subset of the good qualities of the electric drive train offerings for our market then persuading us its the future. Lower 0-60 times and even better cornering is appealing to be fair (probably more so on track) but can still have fun with 220 bhp.

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Re: Evija

Post by robin » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:02 pm

220 electric BHP in a 900kg elise will be good fun indeed - like a massive supercharger :-)

I suspect they could easily get away with a single rear motor, possibly dual rear motors if that gives better power/weight vs a diff of some sort.

I drove my Cup250 for the first time a couple of days ago (despite having bought it at the start of the year!) and it will accelerate fast if you give it the beans, but I think our Model 3 is faster (in a straight line, obviously). The Cup250 is low on miles so the engine needs loosening up, but even with the s/c it's never going to have the same constant power experience that an electric motor has.

Despite what I said before about thinking it is unlikely they can pull it off, I would buy one if it could make 200 miles range on the motorway (so a rated mileage of 250+ miles).
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Re: Evija

Post by Scotty C » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:11 am

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Re: Evija

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Scotty C wrote:
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you win 8) :lol: that looks magic.
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Re: Evija

Post by scott_e » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:46 pm

robin wrote:
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I drove my Cup250 for the first time a couple of days ago (despite having bought it at the start of the year!) and it will accelerate fast if you give it the beans, but I think our Model 3 is faster (in a straight line, obviously).
Must be great to be able to compare two great cars like that Robin :thumbsup 8)

I wonder if its a concern to Lotus sales, in fact any performance car manufacturer, the fact a model 3 out accelerates a performance car ?

Obviously the experience is completely different as are the markets .... and the purest knows better .... but joe public comparing stats between both vehicles may be put off purchasing a lotus because the model 3 is faster in a line ?

Hence the only way forward is electric and EVEN lower 0-60 times.

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Re: Evija

Post by robin » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:58 pm

Exactly, the cat is out of the bag and Lotus have nowhere else to go, in my opinion, in terms of new models anyway. The existing stuff they can sell in the same volumes for a while to come.

The competition is in the 100-200kph zone. Pretty much any electric sports car is going to be electronically restricted to doing 0-60 (0-100kph) in 2.5s - it's only possible to go faster with unrealistically sticky tyres or active aero to increase a car's apparent weight without increasing its mass.

BTW, the Model 3 is no slouch in the corners, but it is heavy and the brakes aren't massive - you never press the brake pedal under normal driving conditions, including stops from high speed, but if you try to follow a 1.8K series S1 down the A701, you will run out of brakes I think ;-)

Scotty, that looks absolutely epic! I need a shark fin on the elise :-)
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Re: Evija

Post by rossybee » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:43 pm

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Re: Evija

Post by scott_e » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:24 am

Stunning ! would be even better with black alloys.

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Re: Evija

Post by alicrozier » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:28 am

robin wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:58 pm
BTW, the Model 3 is no slouch in the corners, but it is heavy and the brakes aren't massive - you never press the brake pedal under normal driving conditions, including stops from high speed, but if you try to follow a 1.8K series S1 down the A701, you will run out of brakes I think ;-)
Some in-car of Model 3 at the 'Ring for interest. Plenty oomph but indeed brakes, suspension and tyres would need some upgrade...
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Re: Evija

Post by robin » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:24 pm

Yes I saw that - brakes toasted by Schwedenkreuz! Still not the slowest thing on track either :-)
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