Best hot hatch for £10k

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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by campbell » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:46 pm

douglasgdmw wrote:
campbell wrote:Wow. Might have a winner there, Gary.

Assume similar annual budget to purchase price to keep it going?!
If your going to wear a medalion it has to have a complimenting chest rug. Ditch the 2.2 and go for a proper Alfa:

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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by woody » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:13 pm

campbell wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:42 pm
Corranga wrote: Mk3 MINI testimonial.
Nope. Mk3 MINIs all munters. Ruled out.

Mk2 still poss. Cooper S minimum.
Brave engine choice.

I've decided I quite like our MK3/f56 now.

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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by Alistair » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:23 pm

campbell wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:42 pm
Corranga wrote: Mk3 MINI testimonial.
Nope. Mk3 MINIs all munters. Ruled out.

Mk2 still poss. Cooper S minimum.
Have a JCW here for a borrow if you like :thumbsup

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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by campbell » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:34 pm

Lol

Bit firm for me but good for sizing :-)
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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by Rosssco » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:07 am

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Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:23 pm
French is out.
You're missing out on the undisputed hot hatch king then - Megane RS250

Yep, I had the same opinion as you (never had French, let alone a hot hatch), but honestly, the hype and consistent magazine test wins are fully deserved.

Does all the hot hatch stuff easily - practical, 4 seats (rear leg room a bit tight for adults), large boot, economic (mine averages 40-ish mpg on 70-75mph motorway slogs), reliable (usual non-German levels of plastics, but the basic car and mechanicals are robust)

Great chassis (both full of grip and mobile - you can really use the throttle for some tail happy action. Cup pack important), very good traction (the magic of an LSD and fancy front suspension design), brakes, and steering etc. Probably more hard core than most of the other choices (one of those chassis that gets better the harder you push), but I use mine regularly incl. trip North - South and perfectly comfy.

I'd just say try one if you havent already (welcome to try mine of course)
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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by campbell » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:01 am

You sell it well, Ross.
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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by Alistair » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:29 am

Rosssco wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:07 am
campbell wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:23 pm
French is out.
You're missing out on the undisputed hot hatch king then - Megane RS250

Yep, I had the same opinion as you (never had French, let alone a hot hatch), but honestly, the hype and consistent magazine test wins are fully deserved.

Does all the hot hatch stuff easily - practical, 4 seats (rear leg room a bit tight for adults), large boot, economic (mine averages 40-ish mpg on 70-75mph motorway slogs), reliable (usual non-German levels of plastics, but the basic car and mechanicals are robust)

Great chassis (both full of grip and mobile - you can really use the throttle for some tail happy action. Cup pack important), very good traction (the magic of an LSD and fancy front suspension design), brakes, and steering etc. Probably more hard core than most of the other choices (one of those chassis that gets better the harder you push), but I use mine regularly incl. trip North - South and perfectly comfy.

I'd just say try one if you havent already (welcome to try mine of course)
I've always fancied one of these - as you say so many people raved about them. I got a little lost in the various models throughout the years though - is the RS250 the pick of the bunch?

There's quite a few for sale with the cup chassis (and some that look like they don't even realise they have it!)

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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by Rosssco » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:36 pm

campbell wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:01 am
You sell it well, Ross.
Just worth a look (I had to sell it to myself too, and get a poke around a friends car) - despite your automotive francophobia.. :P :mrgreen:
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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by alicrozier » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:40 pm

My money is Campbell reading all this advice and ending up with a Polo... :) ;)
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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by Rosssco » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:43 pm

Alistair wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:29 am
Rosssco wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:07 am
campbell wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:23 pm
French is out.
You're missing out on the undisputed hot hatch king then - Megane RS250

Yep, I had the same opinion as you (never had French, let alone a hot hatch), but honestly, the hype and consistent magazine test wins are fully deserved.

Does all the hot hatch stuff easily - practical, 4 seats (rear leg room a bit tight for adults), large boot, economic (mine averages 40-ish mpg on 70-75mph motorway slogs), reliable (usual non-German levels of plastics, but the basic car and mechanicals are robust)

Great chassis (both full of grip and mobile - you can really use the throttle for some tail happy action. Cup pack important), very good traction (the magic of an LSD and fancy front suspension design), brakes, and steering etc. Probably more hard core than most of the other choices (one of those chassis that gets better the harder you push), but I use mine regularly incl. trip North - South and perfectly comfy.

I'd just say try one if you havent already (welcome to try mine of course)
I've always fancied one of these - as you say so many people raved about them. I got a little lost in the various models throughout the years though - is the RS250 the pick of the bunch?

There's quite a few for sale with the cup chassis (and some that look like they don't even realise they have it!)
The RS250 is just the first model. the subseqent RS265 and 275 are just newer / face-lifted versions. However, the chassis (save for special edition / optional Ohlins) brakes and drivetrain remained unchanged throughout, with just small incremental power increases (a £500 'remap' liberates them all to ~300bhp anyway, and the early RS250's made more than the factory outputs anyway, when tested).

The 'cup' pack is important as (like other Renaultsport products) they aren't just a few tweaks - different springs / dampers / ARB's and LSD are the changes (I never even considered a non-cup)

You do need to spend on suspension components to keep them tip top, but then its what makes it feel special (like a Lotus, I guess).
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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by campbell » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:29 pm

alicrozier wrote:My money is Campbell reading all this advice and ending up with a Polo... :) ;)
I think you may have ruled that out Image
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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by campbell » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:02 pm

Had a look at the Megane. Doesn’t excite I’m afraid.
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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by Mike Scib » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:29 pm

The only one you haven’t ruled out is the Fiesta ST?


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(that's why I think Mike will do fine, that and his lack of imagination). :roll: :lol:

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Post by Dominic » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:41 pm

ST FTW 8) :lol:
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Re: Best hot hatch for £10k

Post by campbell » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:48 pm

Mike Scib wrote:The only one you haven’t ruled out is the Fiesta ST?


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I’ve no idea. I haven’t been paying much attention. Thanks for analysing that for me Mike Image

A Mk2 Cooper S is not out the question either.

Your Up GTI is not blackballed. Yet.

And it was Ali who ruled out the Polo Image
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