Scottish Elises

Dominic wrote:I totally get the appeal of the UP GTi,... but can't help but think it's just a wee bit under powered... from what I have heard.

Best bet would be to line up some test drives, and see what tickles your fancy...

Rosssco wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:07 am

campbell wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:23 pm

French is out.

You're missing out on the undisputed hot hatch king then - Megane RS250

Yep, I had the same opinion as you (never had French, let alone a hot hatch), but honestly, the hype and consistent magazine test wins are fully deserved.

Does all the hot hatch stuff easily - practical, 4 seats (rear leg room a bit tight for adults), large boot, economic (mine averages 40-ish mpg on 70-75mph motorway slogs), reliable (usual non-German levels of plastics, but the basic car and mechanicals are robust)

Great chassis (both full of grip and mobile - you can really use the throttle for some tail happy action. Cup pack important), very good traction (the magic of an LSD and fancy front suspension design), brakes, and steering etc. Probably more hard core than most of the other choices (one of those chassis that gets better the harder you push), but I use mine regularly incl. trip North - South and perfectly comfy.

I'd just say try one if you havent already (welcome to try mine of course)

Sanjøy wrote:You need to drive my car C.

C7Steve wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:29 am

VX Corsa?

Chavtastic and much cheapness.


Steve.

campbell wrote:

Mike Scib wrote:Golf gti is the obvious answer (best car in the world!)

After that, GT86, or Up gti is where my 10k would be going.


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GT86 has comedy back seats. So no.

Hadn’t thought of Supermini...Up GTI not out the question. Although motorway manners presumably questionable.

istoo wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:56 am

campbell wrote:

Mike Scib wrote:Golf gti is the obvious answer (best car in the world!)

After that, GT86, or Up gti is where my 10k would be going.


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GT86 has comedy back seats. So no.

Hadn’t thought of Supermini...Up GTI not out the question. Although motorway manners presumably questionable.

Also why we didn’t get one... but did go m135i. Out of budget still but you would get a 130i. Worst had one.


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Sanjøy wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:05 am

M135i.

I just found a great car on Auto Trader:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 7160120257

Rosssco wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:43 pm

Alistair wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:29 am

Rosssco wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:07 am

You're missing out on the undisputed hot hatch king then - Megane RS250

Yep, I had the same opinion as you (never had French, let alone a hot hatch), but honestly, the hype and consistent magazine test wins are fully deserved.

Does all the hot hatch stuff easily - practical, 4 seats (rear leg room a bit tight for adults), large boot, economic (mine averages 40-ish mpg on 70-75mph motorway slogs), reliable (usual non-German levels of plastics, but the basic car and mechanicals are robust)

Great chassis (both full of grip and mobile - you can really use the throttle for some tail happy action. Cup pack important), very good traction (the magic of an LSD and fancy front suspension design), brakes, and steering etc. Probably more hard core than most of the other choices (one of those chassis that gets better the harder you push), but I use mine regularly incl. trip North - South and perfectly comfy.

I'd just say try one if you havent already (welcome to try mine of course)

I've always fancied one of these - as you say so many people raved about them. I got a little lost in the various models throughout the years though - is the RS250 the pick of the bunch?

There's quite a few for sale with the cup chassis (and some that look like they don't even realise they have it!)

The RS250 is just the first model. the subseqent RS265 and 275 are just newer / face-lifted versions. However, the chassis (save for special edition / optional Ohlins) brakes and drivetrain remained unchanged throughout, with just small incremental power increases (a £500 'remap' liberates them all to ~300bhp anyway, and the early RS250's made more than the factory outputs anyway, when tested).

The 'cup' pack is important as (like other Renaultsport products) they aren't just a few tweaks - different springs / dampers / ARB's and LSD are the changes (I never even considered a non-cup)

You do need to spend on suspension components to keep them tip top, but then its what makes it feel special (like a Lotus, I guess).

Mike Scib wrote:That’s part of the appeal, you have to rev it out without being in danger of silly speeds.

Dominic wrote:I totally get the appeal of the UP GTi,... but can't help but think it's just a wee bit under powered... from what I have heard.

Best bet would be to line up some test drives, and see what tickles your fancy...

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