It’s time...

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Re: It’s time...

Post by rawsco » Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:18 pm

The market is really odd just now. I’ve had a few enquiries open for 380s and 410s. JCT had a nice Cyan Blue 410 for a sensible price which I would have bought however the first deal put down was silly. Like laughably silly stupid finance rate and awful partx validation 20% below WBAC, I politely declined and suggested he sharpen the deal up, never heard back. I got quite far In to enquiries for a nice 380 got some figures, not great but not silly either and room to work, arranged a call, guy never called, he apologised and I asked him to call me the next day, Never called. Some dealers haven’t even bothered to reply.

I guess all rolling in bags of cash for the FE purchases...
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Post by campbell » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:49 am

This. I don’t think they have to try ATM as lots of pent up demand. That said. I have heard of deals to be had. Right place right time maybe.
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Post by douglasgdmw » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:02 am

Don't get too downhearted but very frustrating when your looking for a car and dealers do not have the decency to call back.

Bit of a strange world we live in at the moment and sure it can't last this way.

Hopefully you manage to find yourselft something shortly

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Post by scott_e » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:43 am

I count 18 Elises in total (s1,s2,s3) on Autotrader :shock:

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Post by campbell » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:23 am

Wonder if people have assumed it’s a bad time to sell and decide to just hold on. Hence market v thin.
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Post by ed » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:24 am

I noticed that too, seems like dealers might be boycotting autotrader and using piston heads instead as there are a lot more on there. :scratch
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Post by campbell » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:36 am

Plus ... Autotrader is not the first place I’d go to find an Elise (or anything else a bit special). PistonHeads Classifieds is where it’s at

There’s 59 Elises on there right now. Mostly at pretty strong prices. Including some comedy S1’s
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Post by rossybee » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:49 am

campbell wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:36 am
Including some comedy S1’s Image
Thank f***k you have made this comment, as I'm keeping a wee eye on the prices and there is some serious nonsense going on :scratch

The recent silver one at £15k on here was far more realistic :thumbsup
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Post by campbell » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:16 am

Clean but not very exciting example here. On the wrong wheels and needs brake discs sorted out but if I were still looking I’d be on the phone to him.


https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing ... d=11334074

Note - Cat N & S are increasingly likely and perhaps not to be ruled out ...

This one is a high price but chipped down and held long term, might be good. I wouldn’t be spending that though.


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Post by scott_e » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:15 pm

campbell wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:36 am
There’s 59 Elises on there right now. Mostly at pretty strong pricesImage
Even 59 is low historically for PH to be be fair. In days gone by triple figures was the norm.

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Post by scott_e » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:33 pm

Some stats, total number of Elises for sale on PH snapshot:

DATE S1 S2 S3 TOTAL
05/04/2021 14 20 44 78
07/04/2020 29 50 45 124
05/04/2019 36 61 48 145
05/04/2018 30 59 59 148
06/04/2017 16 75 51 142
05/04/2016 39 116 7 162

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Post by tonyg » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:21 pm

campbell wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:36 am
Plus ... Autotrader is not the first place I’d go to find an Elise (or anything else a bit special). PistonHeads Classifieds is where it’s at Image

There’s 59 Elises on there right now. Mostly at pretty strong prices. Including some comedy S1’s Image
And there's a distinct lack of supercharged S2s (not that i'm looking) other than the Type 25 at £35k (yeah right).Lots of other fabulous,superb and stunning cars for sale by them on their page too :lol:
Now with half an engine

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Post by StiflerMR2 » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:25 pm

Prices are going nuts, ben trying to buy an exige s2 but looks like I'll be priced out of them soon too as dont want to go above 30k!

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Post by campbell » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:28 pm

scott_e wrote:Some stats, total number of Elises for sale on PH snapshot:

DATE S1 S2 S3 TOTAL
05/04/2021 14 20 44 78
07/04/2020 29 50 45 124
05/04/2019 36 61 48 145
05/04/2018 30 59 59 148
06/04/2017 16 75 51 142
05/04/2016 39 116 7 162
Interesting analysis!

Got the pricing data too???
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Post by scott_e » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:13 am

campbell wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:28 pm
scott_e wrote:Some stats, total number of Elises for sale on PH snapshot:

DATE S1 S2 S3 TOTAL
05/04/2021 14 20 44 78
07/04/2020 29 50 45 124
05/04/2019 36 61 48 145
05/04/2018 30 59 59 148
06/04/2017 16 75 51 142
05/04/2016 39 116 7 162
Interesting analysis!

Got the pricing data too???
The historic advertisements including spec/price is available via the WayBackMachine web page cache. Would be really interesting pulling price data per vehicle into a spreadsheet and averaging the series price per year but would take maybe 4 hours to pull the data. All I did in the case above was total the number of ads per series on a few sample dates in this case, 5 mins work. The source data is all there, just needs transformed into a useable form.

Dealers have very little stock, the production line is running at maybe half capacity due to covid restrictions, pent up demand and then the supply of new vehicles is about to end. Perfect storm really.

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