Cadwell Tour vid

Post by **Shug** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:21 pm

Okey doke - Sanjoy is kindly hosting this vid on a 2MB leased line, so no worries about clogging it with downloads

http://prasad.it/misc/cadwell.wmv

Footage from Gordon & me - Gordon's doesn't have sound (taken from a stills digi cam) so I went and edited a wee music thingy...

enjoy

PS - it's 33MB Windoze Media

gordon · Post by **gordon** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:21 pm

Brilliant, top job. Looks superb, and you got all the best bits in.

I didn't even realise you were behind me when that Alfa spun in front of us

Post by **Shug** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:33 pm

Aye, you weren't losing me that quick

Evident how much I'm overdriving the car as well, hacking away at the wheel to get the front to stick... Geo sesh soon methinks, then we can have a proper battle

gordon · Post by **gordon** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:35 pm

Canny wait,

i'll be booking the sunner Cadwell date as soon as it comes out.

Post by **Shug** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:41 pm

ditto...

Currently scouring the internet for tyrewall repellant paint!

Was good to get locked in a wee battle again - best TD memories are from soon after I started out and Mac, Fd, me and a few others were on similar pace and could lap pretty well with each other. Last few KH days that hasn't happened for a variety of reasons (chiefly that the days I can go are the days that there are very few other SE'ers)

Certainly made me driver harder than I would have, as I can't stand seeing a car pulling away

All good for the skill levels though (not the bank balance, however) as you only learn by pushing.

Fancy emailing your geo settings, so I can give 'em a wee shotty?

Or post 'em for all to read - beware to anyone else who uses them, though, they sound pretty extreme for owt but track and quick road use.

gordon · Post by **gordon** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:55 pm

I've tried a few setting and these are the ones i'm running now and i really like how the car handles with this set up. Geo settings are......... with Advan Neova LTS......

110/120 ride height Full tank of fuel

Front toe= 0.02deg out
camber= 1.5 deg neg

Rear toe= 0.3 deg in
camber= 2.8 deg neg

Cold tyre pressures

Front= 21
Rear= 23

Car can be twitchy in the wet on the road with there settings, and need a bit of heat in the tyres on track before they really come good.

Post by **Shug** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:12 pm

Beggar - you told me you had a couple of neg degrees on the front

Still, my fronts are almost totally upright - off the top of the head, do you remember what SteveB told you the shims equate to roughly in deg?

It should be in the manual, but it appears the copy I've got has a few pages missing

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:52 pm

Good work that!

Rich

alicrozier · Post by **alicrozier** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:21 pm

Shug, Gordon,
Have you got any footage of this guy on LoT?

http://www.lotus-on-track.com/forums/vi ... 3#pid14044

Cheers,
Ali

gordon · Post by **gordon** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:51 pm

Shug wrote:Beggar - you told me you had a couple of neg degrees on the front

Still, my fronts are almost totally upright - off the top of the head, do you remember what SteveB told you the shims equate to roughly in deg?

It should be in the manual, but it appears the copy I've got has a few pages missing

I'll need to check back some e mails, i'll get back to you.

I actually thought it was about 1.8 to 1.9 deg on the front, but dragged out the printout and it's only 1.5 (well 1.57 and 1.63 to be exact)

The biggest difference apart from the camber was the front and rear toe. puttin the front out that little bit seems to make it turn in really quick and it feels "darty". The camber overall made it feel loads more planted once it's settled into the corner, and i really notice this on the faster stuff where it had loads of grip for just being on road tyres. The rear toe calmed the rear down a bit, but i tried more toe in and it felt dead. Took it back ot this and it was just right. Nice and smooth when it does step out. The camber can make it feel a bit nervous and darty/twitchy, on the road, or if your not goin hard enough to get the tyre pushed right on the tar . but once your actully turned in it just bites, and bites, and bites......

gordon · Post by **gordon** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:43 am

There's some more footage of Cadwell here. I'm in vids 5 and 7. Some good shots of Shug's car blowing flames and sliding about.

http://www.98ron.com/trackdays/cadwellnov05/cadwell.htm

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:14 pm

absolutely spot on video boys.

After seeing that, i'm definately making plans to get myself to cadwell. I was booked on for that day, but suspension let me down. nitrons were away getting rebuilt, as i had bent two piston rods. didnt get car back till the tuesday after cadwell.

Gordon, your driving looks amazing, very smooth and in control, obviously my tutoring has helped

i'll need to speak to you about your GEO settings, as i spoke to walshy about our setup this week when i was down drinking (and occasionally driving)

shug, is your car down on power, or were you poodling on the straights, as you never seemed to keep up on the straights, if i didnt know better, i'd swear gordon had the tuned k and you were standard????

gordon · Post by **gordon** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:44 pm

mckeann wrote:absolutely spot on video boys.

obviously my tutoring has helped

Holy feck, compliments fron Neil, AND on a publc forum too. Just been practicing my heel and toe to maintain hard brake pressure at the same time like you showed me. Getting there now and really noticing how much later i can brake. It was real hard to get some traffic free laps in, (dont think i had any on the vids). Really happy with the car now tho, i can just concentrate on driving it harder and not compromise anything

. LOOOOVVVVEEEE the fast stuff coz this is where the geo works best, turn 1+2 and the long right into the gooseneck made me grin every lap.

Shugs car was quick on the straights, pulled a tad, but it's only really over 100mph the 160bhp+ cars start to pull away from me. Really must get off my ass and get the bloody thing dyno'd.

mckeann · Post by **mckeann** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:05 am

i still reckon you should do a couple of training days with walshy. makes all the difference. I feel much improved over the last 2 months, just wish my car would work long enough to practise :lol

Post by **Shug** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:25 am

Shugmobile used nearly 1 1/2 litres of oil during the day...

...you do the math

According to DVA, sounds like the ring lands have collapsed - maybe when it was getting to higher revs there wasn't so much blowby, but Ali was saying when it was struggling at ~4k in 4th on the back straight, it was definatly blowing smoke. Mahoosive hole in the torque curve meant it was a struggle to get any speed on up the hill on the back straight.

Currently trying to rearrange pennies to wonder if I can go down the Scholar 1.9 block route in the new year....