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wet day ... testing limits ... slowly ...

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:13 am
by scott_e
Wet day today so tried a small slow "power" slide or two on a few empty roundabouts on the way to work. Im terrified of this car in the wet and needed to check where the limits were on A048s. I drive like a slow granny at the slightest show of rain (and probably in the dry too compared to most of you).

I was only going 10-15 mph.

When grip was lost and i took foot off pedal and got grip quickly again.

Realised i need 2 hands on the wheel doh.

Was more comfotable with it losing grip compared to Mr2 mk2. Felt more in control.

I suspect i wouldnt enjoy it going any faster but its going to happan one of these days so needed to test .. get a feel. Im not planning to do any track days so need to find myself a big empty car park / airfield i guess.

Sorry for dragging the good reputation of lotus drivers down a peg with my antics.

Thanks for any advice.
Scott

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:46 am
by mac
Heh - we were all like that in the begining.

2nd best place is a wet track day, nothing coming the wrong way if you've left the tail out.


Best option - http://www.Carlimits.co.uk - it's not just for trackdays :wink:



Mac

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:22 am
by Dominic
Get yourself along to an autotest. Good place to learn some sliding skills. See meets section.
Also: http://www.autotest-scotland.co.uk

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:01 am
by GregR
mac wrote:Heh - we were all like that in the begining.

2nd best place is a wet track day, nothing coming the wrong way if you've left the tail out.

Best option - http://www.Carlimits.co.uk - it's not just for trackdays :wink:

Mac
The young man is on the money there - wet trackdays are the best place to ascertain your, and the car's limits. Don't take this the wrong way mate, but your limits are a lot lower than the car's, and its normally incorrect input at the controls that will have you in trouble rather than the set-up or constitution of the car.

I'm not an advocate of learning at 15%, as you're never going to react the same way if/when it happens in a real-life situation - your subconscious takes over and you're facing backwards before you know it (10 minutes with Walshy taught me that!)

What I'm saying is that its a good idea to try to learn how you/the car will react, but don't grow over confident on the back of a wee slide on an empty roundabout. The best policy is never to drive 100% on the road, and nowhere near that in the wet on 48s!

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:02 am
by Tom
mac wrote:Heh - we were all like that in the begining.

2nd best place is a wet track day, nothing coming the wrong way if you've left the tail out.


Best option - http://www.Carlimits.co.uk - it's not just for trackdays :wink:



Mac
yeah, my first experience of wet driving was KH in the wet in ed's exige :shock: just after they resurfaced the track. the kerbs weren't painted. discovered how slippery wet kerbs are :shock: :shock:

excellant fun though :D :D :D

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:06 am
by robin
Tom wrote:
yeah, my first experience of wet driving was KH in the wet in ed's exige :shock: just after they resurfaced the track. the kerbs weren't painted. discovered how slippery wet kerbs are :shock: :shock:

excellent fun though :D :D :D
Ah, the good old days where Ed had an exige that you could take on the track rather than just to Dan's and back :-)

Cheers,
Robin

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:17 am
by Tom
robin wrote:
Tom wrote:
yeah, my first experience of wet driving was KH in the wet in ed's exige :shock: just after they resurfaced the track. the kerbs weren't painted. discovered how slippery wet kerbs are :shock: :shock:

excellent fun though :D :D :D
Ah, the good old days where Ed had an exige that you could take on the track rather than just to Dan's and back :-)

Cheers,
Robin
:damnfunny

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:29 pm
by scott_e
GregR wrote: Don't take this the wrong way mate, but your limits are a lot lower than the car's
:D thats a fair point and i agree.

i guess snow days are out then.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:34 pm
by graeme
Carlimits.com - cheaper than a new clam...

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:16 pm
by mac
lotus111 wrote:Carlimits.com - cheaper than a new clam...


There speaks the voice of experience :D


Mac

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:16 pm
by graeme
mac wrote:
lotus111 wrote:Carlimits.com - cheaper than a new clam...


There speaks the voice of experience :D


Mac
:finger

(but yeah, you're right!)

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:41 pm
by Andy G
You'd be amazed what these cars are capable of in the wet - the weakest link is often the person controlling it. (i stuffed my first car aqua planning when i was 20 :( )

Go and see Mr Walsh :wink:

Everyone needs training

Since then some of my favourite KH visits have been the wet ones, and my ARDS test was wettest trip i've ever had there!

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 4:54 pm
by PhilA
i love it wet and slippy!!!
especially when I am sittin atop lots of rubber

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:27 pm
by Dominic
scott_e wrote:
i guess snow days are out then.
They're the best. One of my best ever drives in my elise was roof off over the campsies on completely white roads :twisted: :roll: :lol: