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"Martin, who's your driver of the day?"
"well, I'd have to ignore great performances from Kubica, Kovalienen, and Hamilton and say its the guy I manage, David Coulthard.."
Praise is due for keeping going without 3rd gear mind you.
Biggest surprise for me this season is how uncompetetive Raikkonen is. Should be a good season...
"well, I'd have to ignore great performances from Kubica, Kovalienen, and Hamilton and say its the guy I manage, David Coulthard.."
Praise is due for keeping going without 3rd gear mind you.
Biggest surprise for me this season is how uncompetetive Raikkonen is. Should be a good season...
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GregR wrote:"Martin, who's your driver of the day?"
"well, I'd have to ignore great performances from Kubica, Kovalienen, and Hamilton and say its the guy I manage, David Coulthard.."
Praise is due for keeping going without 3rd gear mind you.
Biggest surprise for me this season is how uncompetetive Raikkonen is. Should be a good season...
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It was still boring...............
Masa lead from the start, increased his lead on every lap, Hamilton held second, the boring Finn would have been third if he had not broken down, and Alonso would have been fourth.
Apart from the first corner there was no overtaking or competition from the first five.
That is NOT Grand Prix racing. Where the hell are Fangio and Moss; Clark, Stewart, Hill; Hunt, Lauda, Villeneuve; Senna & Prost? They did not depend on fuel stops and tyre changes, and 100ths of seconds that affected the outcome. They went balls out with only themselves accountable.
OK, I know that everything changes, but where does it stop? The G forces now are so great that the drivers need bodybuilders necks, plus contraptions strapped around them as well. The steering wheel has more buttons and computer power on it than the Space Shuttle.
They still have the same skill as their forerunners, but it is going in the wrong direction. But most of the time, it just ain't exciting.
tut
ps regardless of the above, Hamilton is doing a fantastic job, but it was still apparent that Masa with a slightly faster car, and with todays clinical conditions, if he did not break down, he had won off the grid.
Masa lead from the start, increased his lead on every lap, Hamilton held second, the boring Finn would have been third if he had not broken down, and Alonso would have been fourth.
Apart from the first corner there was no overtaking or competition from the first five.
That is NOT Grand Prix racing. Where the hell are Fangio and Moss; Clark, Stewart, Hill; Hunt, Lauda, Villeneuve; Senna & Prost? They did not depend on fuel stops and tyre changes, and 100ths of seconds that affected the outcome. They went balls out with only themselves accountable.
OK, I know that everything changes, but where does it stop? The G forces now are so great that the drivers need bodybuilders necks, plus contraptions strapped around them as well. The steering wheel has more buttons and computer power on it than the Space Shuttle.
They still have the same skill as their forerunners, but it is going in the wrong direction. But most of the time, it just ain't exciting.
tut
ps regardless of the above, Hamilton is doing a fantastic job, but it was still apparent that Masa with a slightly faster car, and with todays clinical conditions, if he did not break down, he had won off the grid.
I agree - take away all the aero add-ons, reduce tyre widths etc etc and we'd have a few more heros like clark/villenueve snr etc. More about mechanical grip and driver skill, rather than aero and downforce...
So :
What about all you Exige guys giving up your A048s, rear wing, front splitters, Ohlins etc and come a drive real cars like us Elise drivers
So :
What about all you Exige guys giving up your A048s, rear wing, front splitters, Ohlins etc and come a drive real cars like us Elise drivers
Hopefully not a repost... but an hugely enjoyable 30mins of fabulous F1 stuff from the past.
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.sw ... 7949&hl=nl
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.sw ... 7949&hl=nl
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something tells me... alonso hasnt taken it too well (hamilton's performance) in spite of being in the same team. somehow i just seem to see that insecurity on his face.
i hope the next race is interesting. hamilton having a history of not having lost a race in monte carlo (pre-F1).
also wonder how coulthard would perform.
i hope the next race is interesting. hamilton having a history of not having lost a race in monte carlo (pre-F1).
also wonder how coulthard would perform.
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Banning traction should help next year. Some quite interesting comments in this interview in Bahrain:
Q: (Dan Knutson National Speed Sport News) May I ask all of you what you think about racing without traction control next year?
FM: I never drove a Formula One car without traction control. It will be quite new for me, but it will be the same for everybody, so we just need to find the settings to make the car more stable, to try and work on the engine, on what we can work, because we’re going to miss a lot of electronic parts next year, but I don’t know how it’s going to be. So it’s going to be new for everybody. We just need to find ourselves quickly under the new rules.
LH: I think it will be better. I enjoyed driving GP2 without traction control and it puts more control of the car into the driver’s hands, I think. It’s not easy driving, it’s a different driving style, a different technique is required and I think it’s going to make for exciting racing. You get up the inside of someone, you can really use the power to get yourself past on the exit of corners but then also you have to learn to use your tyres in a different way because obviously the more spin, the more the wear. It’s going to be interesting, but obviously we’re going to have to make a lot of changes to make it safe.
JT: I think it’s going to be interesting and definitely better. From my point of view, the more you give the car back to the driver, the better it is, or the better it is for me. I feel like I’m more in charge of doing things. At the moment, the cars are too easy. I’m really in favour of it.
RK: Well, I think it will be same for everybody, so everybody will have to adapt a bit their driving, a bit the cars, a bit the set-up to do this. Now Formula One cars are built with this and in some ways, we know we have this, so we choose some different way, maybe for next year but we will know this and we cannot rely on traction control.
HK: I think it’s absolutely the way to go. Let’s just stick in a third pedal, a clutch pedal under your feet and put in the old H-box; that’s the way to go in F1!
Drivers: Lewis Hamilton (McLaren), Heikki Kovalainen (Renault), Robert Kubica (BMW Sauber), Felipe Massa (Ferrari), Jarno Trulli (Toyota).
Q: (Dan Knutson National Speed Sport News) May I ask all of you what you think about racing without traction control next year?
FM: I never drove a Formula One car without traction control. It will be quite new for me, but it will be the same for everybody, so we just need to find the settings to make the car more stable, to try and work on the engine, on what we can work, because we’re going to miss a lot of electronic parts next year, but I don’t know how it’s going to be. So it’s going to be new for everybody. We just need to find ourselves quickly under the new rules.
LH: I think it will be better. I enjoyed driving GP2 without traction control and it puts more control of the car into the driver’s hands, I think. It’s not easy driving, it’s a different driving style, a different technique is required and I think it’s going to make for exciting racing. You get up the inside of someone, you can really use the power to get yourself past on the exit of corners but then also you have to learn to use your tyres in a different way because obviously the more spin, the more the wear. It’s going to be interesting, but obviously we’re going to have to make a lot of changes to make it safe.
JT: I think it’s going to be interesting and definitely better. From my point of view, the more you give the car back to the driver, the better it is, or the better it is for me. I feel like I’m more in charge of doing things. At the moment, the cars are too easy. I’m really in favour of it.
RK: Well, I think it will be same for everybody, so everybody will have to adapt a bit their driving, a bit the cars, a bit the set-up to do this. Now Formula One cars are built with this and in some ways, we know we have this, so we choose some different way, maybe for next year but we will know this and we cannot rely on traction control.
HK: I think it’s absolutely the way to go. Let’s just stick in a third pedal, a clutch pedal under your feet and put in the old H-box; that’s the way to go in F1!
Drivers: Lewis Hamilton (McLaren), Heikki Kovalainen (Renault), Robert Kubica (BMW Sauber), Felipe Massa (Ferrari), Jarno Trulli (Toyota).
All characters appearing in this post are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
Any references to laptimes, speed or driving on the public highway are purely for dramatic effect.
Any references to laptimes, speed or driving on the public highway are purely for dramatic effect.
Tut, I was in the same camp as you quite a few years ago. To answer your question, Clark died racing, Stewart left racing as he thought it was simply too dangerous in that era, Lauda nearly got incinerated at the nurburgring, Viellneuve died racing (worst accident I've ever seen) and Senna died racing. I know I'm teaching my granny to sook eggs here, but we've lost out on some of the best drivers ever to grace the tarmac in the pursiut of a 'spectacle'. I'd take what we've got now and a 'no deaths' record any day over what I felt like in 1994 after San Marino...tut wrote: Where the hell are Fangio and Moss; Clark, Stewart, Hill; Hunt, Lauda, Villeneuve; Senna & Prost?
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