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Accident during Ayrshire Run, 29/07/2007 - Story and Pics

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:47 pm
by dezzy
I think most of the regular SE'rs I'm in touch with now know about the accident I was involved in during the Ayrshire run on Sunday 29th July. I've not posted at all since the accident as I needed to get my head sorted and was thinking about leaving it until the insurance is sorted. However, that'll no doubt take a while, and SE has been really good to me, so I didn't want to stop being a part of the forum and decided it was time to get posting again.

So, here's a brief account of my story below, along with some pics. I'll be leaving the insurance company to sort things out and will post more once I know the outcome, so have just put a short account below.

Firstly, though, I just want to say a massive thank you to everyone who has helped me out on the day and since. I'm honestly overwhelmed by the messages, phonecalls, offers of cars and generally amazing SE spirit I've witnessed during this past week. I can't say thank you enough for all the kind words! You're an amazing bunch of kind, helpful people!

So, the story . . .

After our lunch and fuel stop during the Ayrshire run, I ended up at the back of the group I was in, just due to the order in which we left the petrol station. We headed out of New Galloway towards Newton Stewart on the A712. About half a mile down that road, I was approaching a reasonably tight left hand corner (it had a warning triangle for the bend). I was doing a reasonable pace on the straight, but on seeing the warning triangle, obviously eased off and braked for the corner, and proceeded round the left hand bend at a completely appropriate speed for the conditions.

When about half way round the bend, the next thing I knew I was thinking (in a split second) "that silver car's really close to me" then all of a sudden there was a massive bang/crack noise (I still can't get it out of my head) as the other car collided with me on the corner. The impact itself is a bit of a blur, but I know for certain that I was on my own side of the white lines, doing an appropriate speed for the corner and conditions (warm and dry) and I'm certain I was not in a sideways skid of any type.

The next thing I knew, the car was scraping along my side of the road towards a layby, which was luckily situated in a handy place for the car to roll into. I immediately got the engine off and jumped out of the car.

I was in complete shock at the time and that lasted most of Sunday and Monday. I realised I was thankfully in one piece and had no obvious physical injuries at the time. I couldn't quite take in what had happened but the car was a mess. The driver/passenger in the other car (VW Passat) were an older couple. An ambulance and the police were called by people in a car behind the Passat. Ken came back to see if I was okay and I gave Shug a call.

The impact was so strong, it ripped my drivers rear wheel from the car with the wishbone and toelinks still attached. Rear clam in bits and some damage further up the side of the car. I'm very luck the other car didn't hit me further up near my door! I got away with pretty bad shock and I've got bilateral whiplash. I think my CG lock helped to stop me moving to much to the side, as it was mainly a side impact. No matter what people say about the safety of Elises, it's a tough little bugger and kept me in one piece!

Although the impact is a bit of a blur, from my photos and the fact that there are no skid marks from my car on the other side of the road, I believe that what's happened is that the other car has cut the corner (he was curving to the right) and crossed the white lines and turned into me. The only way the impact to my car could have been as shown in the photos below is if I was going sideways, and I'm absolutely certain I was not. It was a bone dry day and I would know if I was going sideways and would admit it if I was. If I had been on the wrong side of the road on a left hand bend, the impact would have been to the front of both cars involved.

I had to ask to be checked out the ambulance crew and the police also left me on my own for ages. The older couple in the other car were taken to hospital for shock. No physical injuries. Police interviewed everyone (witnesses in 2 cars behind the Passat) and eventually interviewed me. Supposedly, the witnesses are claiming I was on the wrong side of the road, but I know I was not and there is no evidence to indicate I was. Even though a serious accident had just happened, they came f'ing and b'ing down the road straight after the accident, probably just because they think a bunch of Loti drivers must obviously be nutters. I think I'm a victim of unfortunate stereotypes of sports car drivers. I also do not think they could have seen where mine and the other car were on the bend, unless they were driving dangerously close the Passat.

However, I'm going to simply leave it to the insurance companies to sort out. Neither I, nor the other driver, were charged with anything. Simply police statements. I will let the insurance companies battle it out, but have some pretty good evidence in my favour. It looks like the car is probably a write-off, but it's now been picked up by the insurance company and will be assessed early next week, so I should know fairly soon if it's going to be written-off.

Whiplash is getting better and I'm back at work now. Shock has eased off, but I'm still a bit up and down. I'm trying to get "back on the horse" as soon as possible. Everyone, including my doctor, said that's the best thing to do. It's my first ever accident in the car and it'll take a while to fully get my confidence back. If it's written-off, I hope to get another Lotus.

I've currently got a Fiat Punto courtesy car, but have had some amazingly kind offers from several SE people, offering their 2nd car to me as a loan when the courtesy car goes back in 2 weeks. Thanks so much for this guys!

So much for this being a "short" account of my story! :roll: I'll just finish by saying a huge thanks to everyone who has called/emailed/PM'd me, and would like to say a particularly special thanks to:

- VXJon, for giving me a lift home after the accident.
- ExigeKen, for speaking to me every day since the accident, being really supportive, and offering a shot in his Exige to get me "back on the horse".
- Blaque, for his extremely helpful advice today from his own experiences in a similar situation.
- GregR, for his time and advice earlier in the week.
- Dominic, ExigeKen and Steve_Weegie, all for offering me a loan car for when my courtesy car runs out.

And everyone else for being so supportive. Thanks!

Here's some pics below. I'll not post any pics of the road/other car/etc until I've sent them away as evidence to the insurance company.

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If anyone thinks any of the above is not appropriate for a public forum, let me know, or if you think this would be better in a section like Meets, then let me know and I'll ask a moderator to move it.

Cheers,
D

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:16 am
by tenkfeet
F***ing hell Dezzy really sorry to hear about you accident , as long as you are ok that is the main thing.

If you want to get back on the horse you are more than welcome to take my car out for a blat as I know you are a good sensible driver .

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:22 am
by Victor Meldrew
Just dont go all hippy on us and buy a Totota Prious.. :lol:

You've got my number if you need anything.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:52 am
by Skyenet
Dezzy

Really sorry to hear about the crash but glad you are okay. You certainly took quite a impact. I bet it has played over in your mind time and time again. Hope it all gets sorted out to your satisfaction.

Iain

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:57 am
by k12chu
dezzy,
sorry to hear about the accident. actually i never knew u guys had gone for a run. i have been bed ridden myself, so havent been able to sit in front of the comp lately. good to know u r ok. car can always be replaced. not to worry... am sure u'll find urself in an elise soon.
krishnan

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:44 am
by ngaff1
Dezzy, so glad to hear you're ok, it looks like one hell of a bash. Why do folk always assume that cos you're driving a certain car or are younger that it's likely to be you at fault :evil: . Hope you get it all sorted.
Neil

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:48 am
by pete
Dezzy,

Where to start... My presence on here is random, I struggle to balance family and work and SE membership so for the last few weeks I haven't even really been lurking. I knew there was an Ayrshire run, right on my doorstep, but I had friends up so I couldn't come. I tried to read the posts but whilst it was obvious something bad had happened (didn't someone else crash too?) I hadn't realised it was so serious.

You don't need to hear this but I followed you down from Braemar on TT (black car, very good looking chap in exceptionally cool hat* - I think your pax took a photo - yes that is how cool) and despite the fact I was right behind you your driving remained sane and together. Now I admit that might not stand up in court, but I was trying to catch the two in front of you who will remain nameless but whose driving was altogether less considered than yours. After a couple of miles I stopped even thinking of trying to get past, I just put my brain back in (I'd been keeping it in the boot for some of the run earlier that morning so it didn't get wet) and realised that your driving was sensible and if I just stuck with you I'd get home in one piece and probably only a few minutes behind them...

Ii I had a car to lend you I would. I wish I had something more constructive to offer, I've had loads of accidents, some big some small. Some my fault, some the fault of others and some the fault of fate and they were all sh*t.

The shock passes. I'm just glad you weren't hurt.

Pete

*Some of that sentence may be a bit untrue.


(I need to work harder on relevant postings. I was just trying to say that, in common with others who have posted, I am sure your instincts are right - the VW was on the wrong side of the road.)

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:48 am
by ryallm
Scary accident, but glad you are ok! Looks like the same impact just a few feet further up the side of the car could have been very nasty indeed.

Car defo a write off I reckon, so best of luck getting back on the horse and finding another.

Mark

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:06 am
by kanddl_111r
I'm sorry and shocked to hear about the accident and to see the damage to your car Dezzy :( , ..but glad to hear you are okay. :) These Elises are strong wee cars, your photos reminded me of the time ExigeKen, Neil.G and I witnessed Del roll his old Elise and walk away completely unharmed.

Anyway, I hope your insurance company sort your claim out promptly and you get yourself another Elise asap.

Cheers
David

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:14 am
by BiggestNizzy
Sorry to hear about the accident as long as your okay that's what matter's you can always get a new car. Kind of put's my bump into perspective.

Get well soon and I hope you get the insurance sorted out ok

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:43 am
by Rich H
Sh!t mate :( But aty leat you are here to tell the tale.

I suspect that the cops would not really be interested in your story vs Mr and Mrs Old bugger :(

I do know a very good accident management company though, they are dealing with my claim. PM me for details if you want.

Get well soon,

Rich

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:15 am
by craigs135s
As i have said mate if there is anything thing i can do just give me a bell. Keep your chin up :wink:

Cheers
C

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:18 am
by tut
Dezzy

I presume that this is the first that those of us not on the run have heard about the accident, or I missed a posting. I only saw that Nizzy had an off.

Just thankfuk that you got away with it relatively unscathed, and I hope that you can prove that you were on your side of the road. Mine the day before would have been clear cut, but that would not have done me much good, as I would not have been around to see it.

As for the shock, it will wear off, witness Kubicas and Hamiltons crashes, and you will soon be in another Elise. As you say, they are strong little buggers, and can save your life. After I wrote my first one off, I was on the Internet the next day to replace it, and was driving an identical one a few days later.

It may take you a bit longer, but hope that you do the same thing.

All the best

tut

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:26 am
by dezzy
Thanks guys. I'm really glad I posted now (yes, Tut, this is the first people not on the run will have heard about it, other than through word of mouth). Your replies all make a difference. Thanks! :thumbsup

D

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:27 am
by gorrie
Ah Sh*t mate.. gutted for you Dezzy. Looking at those pics, your account does seem to make sense... but the old bill probably would only be interested in charging someone if they had proof.

Quite likely the insurance will do knock-for-knock without any evidence either way.