Tyres for the winter season

steve_weegie · Post by **steve_weegie** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:04 pm

go for the 195 fronts - they fit fine on standard elise rims and dont require any geo changes. Anybody that's got t1r's on an S2 will be running the 195 size & have done so without issue iirc.

My 195's will be going on to replace the a048s after this weekend.....

Cheers,

Steve

daveskerr · Post by **daveskerr** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:45 pm

are S2 111s rims the same size as standard S2 rims?? Or is that a dumb question and im being stupid?

steve_weegie · Post by **steve_weegie** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:23 pm

daveskerr wrote:are S2 111s rims the same size as standard S2 rims??

Yup, they sure are - J5.5 if i remember correctly....

daveskerr wrote:Or is that a dumb question and im being stupid?

no, of course not......

Best to check these things, especially when you're not replacing things like for like.....

Cheers,

Steve

daveskerr · Post by **daveskerr** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:27 pm

Your right Steve,

Just dont want to order a full set to find the fronts dont fit!!

Just cant picture how a 195 tyre can fit instead of a 175!

Post by **simon** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:29 pm

steve_weegie wrote:Anybody that's got t1r's on an S2 will be running the 195 size & have done so without issue iirc.

Most will have the 185s actually, very few use the 195s as they don't fit that well and look a little stupid on the narrow rims. I had T1-Rs, thought they were crap so switched to AD07s and I wouldn't fit anything else for road tyres.

daveskerr · Post by **daveskerr** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:58 pm

so is that 185/55/r16 or 185/50/r16 simon?

Getting a bit confused here!!

alicrozier · Post by **alicrozier** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:56 pm

Best with 185/50/r16.

The 55 profile would give a more than 5mm increase in ride height.
(185/50 is around 4mm reduction in ride height, 195/50 about bang on - if you neglect the angle the sidewalls have to take to fit the rims)

Post by **simon** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:23 pm

What Ali says if you really must have Toyos but like I said before IMO they're sh*t and I'd never waste my money on them again. They're cheap for a reason

mac · Post by **mac** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:44 am

I'm with Simon on this - just couldn't get to grips with the Toyo's they were always too much of a compromise for me.

Having said that - they did give excellent grip on the first few laps round Kh where other tyres needed to heat up - If they did them in Caterham sizes I would give them a go on the hillclimbs.

mac

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:06 am

I like Toyos as I'm a mincer

and like the fact I can rely on them in the wet, never had any grip issues apart from when I deliberatly provoke it.

Then again I still haven't got myself properly on track...

They are cheap too which helps...

mac · Post by **mac** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:08 am

RICHARDHUMBLE wrote:I like Toyos as I'm a mincer and like the fact I can rely on them in the wet, never had any grip issues apart from when I deliberatly provoke it.

Then again I still haven't got myself properly on track...

They are cheap too which helps...

Folk like Spam until they try parma ham

Mac

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:16 am

Fair.

But having been on several runs with people complaining about slippery bits and me not having had any problems whatsoever while still keeping up with the majority suggests to me that for our crappy roads they are pretty darn good in greasy, wet, boggy, filthy and generally poor conditions.

In the dry, I have no doubt they are lacking, having borrowed John's Maxis for a day in the baking heat which were awesome! But also seeing how quickly they went off was scary... I know they are on the extreme end of the scale but still.

My skills are insufficient to need that last bit of grip, most of the time I don't use what I've got anyway!

steve_weegie · Post by **steve_weegie** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:25 am

mac wrote:
RICHARDHUMBLE wrote:I like Toyos as I'm a mincer and like the fact I can rely on them in the wet, never had any grip issues apart from when I deliberatly provoke it.

Then again I still haven't got myself properly on track...

They are cheap too which helps...

Folk like Spam until they try parma ham

Mac

Parma ham fritters? I'm sure they've both got their uses

Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:01 pm

Spam,Spam,Spam,Spam,Spam,Spam,Spam,.....

/Monty Python