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GregR
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Post by GregR » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:43 pm

Roger that on emissions!!
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Post by Baggy » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:58 pm

Have you thought about chopping your car in for a S2 111s they're supposed to give you 156 or so out the box due to an improved map to the S1 ....add a little with an induction kit and exhaust and you're knocking on the door of 160 without any mods or emissions issues... The VVC engines are generally pretty robust, only trouble is VVC mech sounds like someone's rattleing a tin of spanners.
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Post by gorrie » Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:08 pm

IAINBOAG wrote:One thing to consider now with any engine mod is the dreaded emissions test

When Paul G and I visited Murrays to pick up "Ring" spares the Mechanics were moaning about a PTP modded Elise that had failed three times even after replacing the race cat with a standard one and sending the ECU pack to make it run leaner!!!
The MOT is due to get stricter when they lower the levels even more

Joy!!
I think I know who's car that was.... they put a 'treatment' through it according to the owner and it finally passed (just as well as he had traded it in at another garage on the basis it had MOT).
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Post by Wee Leo » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:05 am

The PTP kits are sold with various options, depending what you already have installed on your car. If you have a sports exhaust and sports cat, then you don't need to buy them - hence the variation in price.

The kits now come with an Emerald ECU and vernier pulleys.

I have had an RS170 kit installed - however a word of caution. The ECU is advertised as coming with an "engine tune that has been developed exclusively for PTP"

This tune never existed. After the kit was installed on my car it was hardly drivable. After much discussion, PTP found and paid for, a specialist who was able to create a map using a rolling road and by driving the car. PTP also refunded some of the cost of the kit to me.

Also - if you have an S2, the ECU does not plug directly into the available harness plugs. You have to cut the wiring loom and hardwire into the S1 style plug. The wiring diagram they provided had a mistake in it, which meant that the cooling fan would never come on. I had to troubleshoot this myself.

Fortunately all this was completed prior to the alpine summer tour this year. See the picture on September of the 2008 SE calendar. Mine is the blue car, the yellow is Andy_snap.

As for performance, I've now sold my 320ps 911.

The car runs really smoothly in all gears from idle until the rev limiter cuts in - even in 5th gear.

For MOT or (TüV as I'm living in Germany) the map in the ECU can easily be changed to make it pass.

So in summary PTP have good hardware, but buyer beware. There is now a small disclaimer at the bottom of the PTP web page stating that a rolling road set up may be required.

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