Plus I noticed there was no bracket holding my battery, so it's just sliding around down there. Any ideas how to brace it without making it completely impossible to remove next time?
Do you get smaller batteries?
Do you get smaller batteries?
I’m guessing this is A: a question asked by everyone who’s ever taken the battery out of their car! And B: the answer is no?!
Plus I noticed there was no bracket holding my battery, so it's just sliding around down there. Any ideas how to brace it without making it completely impossible to remove next time?
Plus I noticed there was no bracket holding my battery, so it's just sliding around down there. Any ideas how to brace it without making it completely impossible to remove next time?
S1 50th Ann.
Re: Do you get smaller batteries?
Get a proper battery bracket...
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Re: Do you get smaller batteries?
Battery Holder from Elise Parts
http://www.eliseparts.com/shop/index.ph ... cts_id=525
http://www.eliseparts.com/shop/index.ph ... cts_id=525
Alan
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Re: Do you get smaller batteries?
AJT wrote:Battery Holder from Elise Parts
http://www.eliseparts.com/shop/index.ph ... cts_id=525
It's £23 and I can't get hold of it tomorrow
S1 50th Ann.
Re: Do you get smaller batteries?
Yes you can but they are expensive and usually have different charge/discharge characteristics . . . lots of people with competition cars use smaller batteries but they don't need the car to start on a freezing morning after leaving the car all weekend for example . . . they usually also fit an anderson boost connector in case the normal battery is not enough . . . look for odessey gel/dry cells . . .
as for the crappy elise battery bracket - you can make it fit almost any battery with a little creative packing and metalwork, certainly it's a good idea to not have it sliding around as that can cause a fire (seen a burned out loom because of that before) . . .
Fd
as for the crappy elise battery bracket - you can make it fit almost any battery with a little creative packing and metalwork, certainly it's a good idea to not have it sliding around as that can cause a fire (seen a burned out loom because of that before) . . .
Fd
Re: Do you get smaller batteries?
How about a small ratchet tie down strap to hold it in place, like this 


Re: Do you get smaller batteries?
without cutting holes in the chassis . . . difficult to see how that could work . . .
Fd
Fd
Re: Do you get smaller batteries?
The elise parts bracket is OK but not perfect.
IIRC there are two parts to the Lotus design - there is a shelf that the toe of the battery fits under (this is forward of the battery) and then the washer bottle bracket provides a downward clamp and a left right clamp.
What we've done in the past is to rivet small sections of alloy angle bar onto the original bracket to adjust the depth and width of the bracket to suit replacement batteries.
Without the toe piece you are doomed, however, so make sure whatever battery you get meets the following criteria:
(1) The terminals are the same polarity when placed in the original position (i.e. +ve is on the front left, -ve on the front right, IIRC). Make sure you check the polarity signs on the battery moulding - don't rely on the colour coded caps (because I think people swap those around for a laugh, or perhaps some manufacturers don't fit them correctly in the first place - whichever, they are not a reliable indicator of polarity).
(2) The battery toe will fit under the shelf properly.
(3) The battery is no larger in any dimension than the original.
(4) If the new battery is of the vented type, that you haven't lost the original tube and angle connector, and that this will fit into the new battery.
IIRC there are two parts to the Lotus design - there is a shelf that the toe of the battery fits under (this is forward of the battery) and then the washer bottle bracket provides a downward clamp and a left right clamp.
What we've done in the past is to rivet small sections of alloy angle bar onto the original bracket to adjust the depth and width of the bracket to suit replacement batteries.
Without the toe piece you are doomed, however, so make sure whatever battery you get meets the following criteria:
(1) The terminals are the same polarity when placed in the original position (i.e. +ve is on the front left, -ve on the front right, IIRC). Make sure you check the polarity signs on the battery moulding - don't rely on the colour coded caps (because I think people swap those around for a laugh, or perhaps some manufacturers don't fit them correctly in the first place - whichever, they are not a reliable indicator of polarity).
(2) The battery toe will fit under the shelf properly.
(3) The battery is no larger in any dimension than the original.
(4) If the new battery is of the vented type, that you haven't lost the original tube and angle connector, and that this will fit into the new battery.
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Re: Do you get smaller batteries?
Cheers folk.
There's the toe piece towards the front of the car but nothing else, so the battery can - and has been by the looks of it sliding back and forth a little bit.
I'm not needing to replace the battery, I took it out to replace the heater matrix. I was just wondering if there was a smaller one available so it was easier to remove for next time. I've taken off the radiator surround which should help it go back in a little easier.
There's the toe piece towards the front of the car but nothing else, so the battery can - and has been by the looks of it sliding back and forth a little bit.
I'm not needing to replace the battery, I took it out to replace the heater matrix. I was just wondering if there was a smaller one available so it was easier to remove for next time. I've taken off the radiator surround which should help it go back in a little easier.
S1 50th Ann.
Re: Do you get smaller batteries?
What does your washer bottle clip onto then?Scottd wrote:Cheers folk.
There's the toe piece towards the front of the car but nothing else, so the battery can - and has been by the looks of it sliding back and forth a little bit.
I'm not needing to replace the battery, I took it out to replace the heater matrix. I was just wondering if there was a smaller one available so it was easier to remove for next time. I've taken off the radiator surround which should help it go back in a little easier.
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1990 Honda VFR400 NC30
2000 Honda VTR1000 SP1
2000 Kawasaki ZX-7R
Re: Do you get smaller batteries?
Yea cheers Shug FFSShug wrote:What does your washer bottle clip onto then?Scottd wrote:Cheers folk.
There's the toe piece towards the front of the car but nothing else, so the battery can - and has been by the looks of it sliding back and forth a little bit.
I'm not needing to replace the battery, I took it out to replace the heater matrix. I was just wondering if there was a smaller one available so it was easier to remove for next time. I've taken off the radiator surround which should help it go back in a little easier.
/scott -tech god, any questions you know where to come!
Been a loooong day, probably bed time now ! nn
S1 50th Ann.
Re: Do you get smaller batteries?
You must have taken it out to get the battery out....
1994 Lotus Esprit S4 - Work in progress
1980 Porsche 924 Turbo - Funky Interior Spec
2004 Smart Roadster Coupe - Hers
1980 Porsche 924 Turbo - Funky Interior Spec
2004 Smart Roadster Coupe - Hers