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Brake Fluid

Post by philthy » Wed May 14, 2008 1:14 pm

After cooking the brakes 4 times at the weekend think it needs a fluid change.
Whats your recommendations for track use that doesnt kill the brake feel?
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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by DDtB » Wed May 14, 2008 1:20 pm

Super blue racing from Eurocarparts seems to work fine for me (it even matches the car in colour!)... and it's only about £13 a litre so gets changed regularly....

Doing it again when I fit my rear hoses on Thurs evening if all goes according to plan... :thumbsup

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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by Clarkie » Wed May 14, 2008 1:46 pm

Castrol SRF, expensive but the best you can buy :thumbsup Not worth trying to save money on brake stuff IMHO

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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by Andy G » Wed May 14, 2008 3:40 pm

What what brake set up do you have?
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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by philthy » Wed May 14, 2008 3:42 pm

Im not 100% sure on the pads, think they are EBC Yellows and Drilled discs. Standard AP calipers

the castrol stuff looks good, reas its used on formula 1 cars?!
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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by mckeann » Wed May 14, 2008 3:50 pm

You dont really need it in the elise, you shouldnt be boiling fluid within 30 mins on track.


the 10 quid castrol, or 13 quid blue stuff is good enough

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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by philthy » Wed May 14, 2008 4:21 pm

if its not boiling what do you suggest was happening? I did get about 25 laps in before it went.
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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by mac » Wed May 14, 2008 4:33 pm

It could be boiling, but only because :-

A) your current fluid has a high moisture content and a low wet boiling point
B) your current fluid has a low moisture content but a low dry boiling point
C) your harder on the brakes that the racers on here


The solution to either A or B is to put the blue stuff in :D

The solution to C is to remember it's a track day and chill out a bit.
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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by Shug » Wed May 14, 2008 4:34 pm

philthy wrote:if its not boiling what do you suggest was happening? I did get about 25 laps in before it went.
It could be boiling beacuse it's old and needs changed. Brake fluid sooks in water as it gets older, lowering it's boiling point. Super Dot4 stuff (like what DDtB is suggesting) is more than ample - the SRF is only useful if you're racing an Elise and even then, it's marginal whether it's any better than regularly changed Super Dot4
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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by philthy » Wed May 14, 2008 5:00 pm

I guessed that was why, its prob never been changed in 7 years.
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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by Shug » Wed May 14, 2008 5:44 pm

philthy wrote:I guessed that was why, its prob never been changed in 7 years.
Change it once a year at least - more if you track it a lot.
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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by mckeann » Wed May 14, 2008 7:06 pm

yes, as mentioned, could just be old fluid, or possibly air in it. Worth bleeding/changing fluid, then, if you still have problems, we can look into it a bit more.

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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by philthy » Thu May 15, 2008 10:09 am

Il change it this weekend, wont find out if its fixed the problem until the next track day though!
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Re: Brake Fluid

Post by tut » Thu May 15, 2008 10:27 am

philthy wrote:I guessed that was why, its prob never been changed in 7 years.
Now I guess that you just might have hit on the problem............

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